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hiya
hiya Member Posts: 76
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How do you decide when to seriously consider MC? My DH is okay as long as you don’t say no. Trying to distract or re-direct works sometimes, if not he gets mad…not physically aggressive, but looks angry and says things like ‘you always think your right, this is my house I can do what I want, I’m leaving tomorrow”. I think I can handle it but can feel myself getting down. My grown children can no longer stay with him overnight. if I want a night off or away, he bangs on their bedroom door not understanding why it’s locked; I’m guessing it’s because his routine with me usually here changed. When children visit from OOS (still young age 23), should they try to re-direct, he gets mad. They leave as they feel unsafe with the angry look on his face. He then gets sad and cries as he knows something happened but can’t remember. He can’t sit down and spends most the day outside picking up rocks etc. what about his dignity..I know the neighbors (they know), think this is crazy My children want me to put him in MC so daytime he will be with lots of people, fail free activities etc…so my question is, when is it time? Maybe I’m too close to see extent of decline

DH solid 5 with a foot in stage 6

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  • SDianeL
    SDianeL Member Posts: 1,080
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    it’s a difficult decision but i think if you’re asking the question you should start preparing. Is he on medication for his anger? Does he have a Geriatric Psychiatrist to manage his meds? He might be able to stay home longer if they can manage his agitation. If his agitation can’t be managed, your safety might be at risk. Will you be able to care for him by yourself if he becomes incontinent and or bedridden? Can you hire help? I would start researching facilities and tour the top 3. Make a list of questions to ask them. At least you will be prepared if when the time comes. You also should consider your life and health. Hugs.

  • Traveler18
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    I am so glad you asked this question as I have had this same question this week. My DH has early onset FTD Bv stage 5-6. I have researched the MC facilities and have my leading candidates, but thought I was several months/year out. Unfortunately we have had a really tough week. A LOT of oppositional behavior from my DH - I think he is constipated that is triggering more urinary incontinence. He won't do anything about the incontinence, like change his wet pants until I pull the underwear down forcibly (after 40 minutes of trying to negotiate the outcome). I can't leave him in wet pants and he insists it is water, doesn't know why it is happening and why I am so "mean" about it? Tells me it will dry and I just need to "get over it" and "get some help" for myself. Won't wear pads never mind adult diapers. Also more pushy about control items. Came to a head a couple of nights ago when he took the middle of the bed and refused to make any room for me and told me I could sleep somewhere else. At what point is it just better to be in MC? Usually people end up in care facilities after a health incident or because they can't live on their own. I don't think we will hit either of those. Sorry to pile on so long, but it has been a tough week.

    For others who have had to make the move of a spouse to managed care - what were the indicators that it is time?

  • housefinch
    housefinch Member Posts: 434
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    I think it’s telling that everyone in your household is walking on eggshells or close family cannot visit due to his behavior. That sounds sufficient to get him medicated successfully enough to allow more pleasant lives for everyone, or I would be looking at placement.

  • Quilting brings calm
    Quilting brings calm Member Posts: 2,579
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    Behaviors such as what both of you mention are often the reason for placement. Aggressive behavior needs to be treated with medication or he won’t be accepted for placement.

    Truthfully, when either you or your children - including adult children - don’t feel safe, it’s past time for placement.

  • AlzWife2023
    AlzWife2023 Member Posts: 338
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    I agree with others that him being home is not really his happiness versus yours & your kids. He’s a patient now and his illness is taking over your home. He needs a safe place and so do you and if that means separate places so be it.

  • jsps139_
    jsps139_ Member Posts: 238
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    I haven’t had to make that decision, and I hope to keep my DH home until the end, but who knows???????? I think if my husband was incontinent and refusing to wear depends no matter how much I tried to help, that would be time for me to consider placing him. I could not bear seeing him in clothes soaked with urine. I would hope a facility would know how to handle this.

  • jeannemarie8
    jeannemarie8 Member Posts: 7
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    Please find out if the memory care facility you use will know how to handle incontinence, especially if DH is uncooperative about being changed. The MC place should know how to handle opposition. Assisted living memory care does not do well with incontinence in my experience. Choose a specific Alzheimers place that can handle your specific needs. You will be paying a lot of $$, and your DH should get specialized care.

    I wish I had put DH in MC earlier so he could enjoy the socialization and outings. He still enjoys watching everyone else. He was miserable with me at home even tho I know he loves me. He would not let me change his pullups without a fight. His personality changed with the interaction with others. Incontinence changing is still a battle with the aides, but the good ones know how to get it done.

  • Mint
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    I have experienced most of the same things that are mentioned here pretty much all of them. Sort of the final straw was incontinence and not being agreeable to wearing disposable underwear.

    the shoe sort of fell when my mom ended up in the hospital and I was able to get her placed into a facility. She gave almost no resistance at the facility. She’s been totally cooperative ever since she got to the hospital with wearing her disposable underwear. She likes it there. I am so thankful and it is so amazing. It’s better for her and it’s better for me.

    sorry you’re having to go through this and hope things work out for you. There are a few people on here who still have behavior problems when their family goes to a facility. But usually that can be worked through by getting a geriatric psych admission and getting help from that direction, which was what I planned on trying to do if my mom resisted the facility, but as I said, she loves it.

  • Buggytoo
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    I found that the vigilance and work required to keep my dear husband at home was more than I could bear. Being on duty 24/7 every day had sucked every ounce of resilience out of me. Despite very kind and willing family members and friends, my sense of isolation and sadness was crushing me. I still can't shake the sadness but I do find my nervous system has begun to settle down. Fortunately, my DH has made a pretty successful transition without too much upset.

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DH = Dear Husband
DW= Dear Wife, Darling Wife
LO = Loved One
ES = Early Stage
EO = Early Onset
FTD = Frontotemporal Dementia
VD = Vascular Dementia
MC = Memory Care
AL = Assisted Living
POA = Power of Attorney
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