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April23
April23 Member Posts: 4
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Hello, first post here. I am my dad's daughter and medical/durable POA. He has mid-stage LBD. He is physically pretty healthy except for chronic UTIs which we finally have managed.

He is in a wonderful RCF with a nurse on staff and loving caregivers that adore him. But lately it seems like so many little things are starting: his gums bleed because he can't brush his teeth like he used to, he got a stye that won't go away but he won't tolerate the eye cream, his ankles swell but he won't leave his compression socks on. He gets regular dental and doctor checkups and I am present at every appointment, armed with notes and questions.

I feel like a helicopter daughter because I worry about each new thing. I trust his caregivers to manage his care but I get pressure from my sibling to investigate everything to the nth degree, and it makes me doubt my abilities even though I am the one in contact with his caregivers and doctors, I am the one reading studies, books and articles and watching webinars and they are Googling and sending me AI.

I just don't want to miss anything ever that might hurt my dad. What does everyone else do to manage their LO's life but not have it be all consuming?

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  • psg712
    psg712 Member Posts: 513
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    April, this is a tough balance. I definitely have not achieved it yet. I think it's an ever-changing target, because dementia progresses, their needs change, and our lives and families change too.

    I too feel that responsibility not to miss anything that might affect my parent (mom, in my case), to be the advocate for her, the person giving updates to long distance family, the communicator of her needs and preferences to caregivers at her facility (and right now, the hospital too as she has been in for a week). That is a lot!

    I am gradually learning to prioritize and yes, to let some things go. Other than my sister who lives 4 hours from us, I only notify family of really big events. If they are wondering what is happening with mom, they can contact me. With work and other family responsibilities, I have limited time for doing deep dives into the dementia literature or getting involved in debates over the right supplements and sleep schedule.

    Mom was admitted to the hospital this time just five days after I had surgery for cancer. So in spite of guilt-inducing comments from her medical team, I simply cannot be with mom at the hospital 24/7. The hospital is now providing sitters for her safety. I am there every day but not every hour. The team updates me by phone and consults me for decisions that require my approval as POA. I work in health care myself and know all too well how fallible the system can be. Yet at this point I must exercise some trust in her care team. I do hold them accountable, but I also choose my battles carefully.

    I hope this is of some help. I am still learning too. Please share your experiences and read here about other caregivers' journeys. Even when the details differ from your situation, it helps a lot to know you are not alone in the struggle!

  • SDianeL
    SDianeL Member Posts: 1,711
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    Welcome. Glad you’re here but not for the reason. When you are the primary caregiver for someone with a progressive disease, you decide what is necessary for your LOs comfort and what isn’t. You come to the understanding that some things won’t get done. Like the compression stockings. He doesn’t understand why he should wear them and will always take them off. Same with teeth brushing. Probably not going to happen. Your siblings need to understand that too. I would have a talk with them. You might get a hygienist to visit him and clean his teeth more often if he will tolerate that. I stopped all specialist visits for my DH. No dentist, no eye exams. The facility had a doctor and pharmacy on staff that we used. Trust the staff. They will call you if anything comes up. You are doing a great job. Come here often for info and support. 💜

  • H1235
    H1235 Member Posts: 939
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    I struggle with this as well. Mom is diabetic but aside from Diet Coke has never really followed a diabetic diet. She complains that the food they ( she is in Al) give her is not good for diabetes. But when I told her I could request a diabetic diet for her she said NO. She is reminded to wear her compression socks, but refuses. She has been told to elevate her feet, but doesn’t. She doesn’t think she needs medication for hip pain (she has forgotten about it). I’m told she needs cataract surgery. Pcp and eye doctor said she will be fine. I’m worried. It is so hard to know what to do. Since she has never followed a diabetic diet in the past and it’s being controlled with insulin, I try not to worry about it. Her doctor calls and fills me in after her appointments. If I attend she gets angry. My sibling leaves everything to me! I can’t be there everyday to make sure she wears her compression socks and even if I could she wouldn’t listen to me. She is going the have the cataract surgery and I hope things go well. I’m sure others might handle things differently, but I’m doing what I think is best. That’s all I can do. This stuff is so hard. You are not alone.

  • SiberianIris
    SiberianIris Member Posts: 41
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    Regarding …"but I get pressure from my sibling to investigate everything to the nth degree"…

    A strategy I've found useful for the sort of "help" that is unhelpful is to interpret their suggestions for you to do something as an offer for them to do something.

    Example:

    Sibling: "Hey April23, you should investigate XYZ."

    April23: "That's a great suggestion. Thanks for offering to take this on."

    Resist the urge to tell them you're too busy, etc. because they'll counter that they're even busier, and it becomes a pissing contest. Just keep thanking them for offering to do XYZ.

    The person making these unhelpful suggestions usually makes a hasty retreat, which can be entertaining in itself.

  • harshedbuzz
    harshedbuzz Member Posts: 5,294
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    @April23

    Hi and welcome. I am sorry for your reason to be here, but pleased you found this place.

    This is hard stuff, especially if you have a family member who is at a distance— either physically or emotionally— playing armchair quarterback.

    There comes a time when it is appropriate to back away from preventative care and routine screenings and then later to make a move towards comfort care. It might help you to reframe how you think about your dad's health. At the risk of being blunt— he is terminal. His brain is dying.

    Given that he's at a stage where he requires 24/7 care, you are well fairly well into the disease and coming to a time where it makes sense to re-examine his care. The dental issues are quite common in dementia— in MC, staff prompt toothbrushing but don't usually brush residents' teeth. Some folks help their LO during visits, others step up cleanings if the facility has a visiting dentist. My aunt moved her sister into the SNF at her CCRC in order to make this happen.

    If he won't tolerate the ointment for the stye, you could reach out to his prescriber to see if there is another approach that might help— drops and/or warm compresses if he can tolerate that. Compression socks are not a hill upon which I would die.

    We got to a point where we backed off dad's specialty care. He had COPD and mild pulmonary fibrosis and mental health issues, so we kept his pulmo, urologist, and geri-psych until the end as comfort measures. But we ditched dentistry, cardiology, his retina specialist, most testing.

    HB

  • April23
    April23 Member Posts: 4
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    Oh wow, I can't tell you how helpful this all is! If only my sibling would read it and understand. They have been and are still in denial and no logic, reasoning, studies, links, websites, etc. make any difference so I have stopped trying. They will not attend doctor's visits so they don't have to hear the medical professional's advice. They didn't agree with my placement in the RCF (which is fabulous, there is really no argument there) so if dad gets a bruise, they are borderline accusatory. They have done other things to end our sibling relationship (something that seems common) and we only communicate if it involves my dad. Talking is nearly impossible. The suggestion for them to investigate themselves is a good one though.

    Oh and I am also the family communicator and that gets exhausting also. But I agree with not oversharing, I tell them what they need to know and provide updates when he has a good day and it's good to hear that's reasonable and ok.

    I just need to stand firm in my reasoning and decisions. And it's helpful to know that letting some things go is ok, you just pick the battles, like you would with a toddler. No one else understands how difficult it is to manage someone from head to toe—there is nothing my dad can do for himself and managing it all seems impossible some days. Thanks for all the support! It's so helpful just hearing others' stories!

  • ESkayP
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    I've been through what you are feeling right now. After two trips to the ER and no firm diagnosis for her condition other than potential dehydration, my mother's PCP and I decided on palliative care. Mom was having trouble swallowing calcium and multi-vitamin tablets, so we took them off her list of medications along with a few other pills that were meant for prolonging life. We kept the BP medications because her comfort still depends on managing her blood pressure and her anxiety. Only lately, have I given up on brushing her teeth and showering. She keeps losing her toothbrushes and stashing her toothpaste in drawers and closets where she can't find them. The staff has begun assisting her with a weekly shower and change of clothes. She resists them, but they are still able to coax her at this point. I bought her compression socks, but she doesn't wear them. I looked for them the other day and couldn't even find them. I think she probably tossed them in the trash. Mom gets skin tears easily, but the staff has been able to manage with general first aid. Otherwise, she just seems to be meandering through the days without too much interference. Lately, I've noticed she doesn't replace the toilet paper on the holder when the roll runs out. She has plenty of TP in her bathroom, but she doesn't seem to recognize what it's for unless I put the roll on the holder myself. I wish the staff would check and make sure she has TP by the toilet, but they don't. It's really hard to just let these things go. I loathe this disease with every fiber of my being.

    Also, about your family situation… It probably took a year for me to set the standards of communication with my sister who lives 800 miles away. As it is now, I tell her the big things like the ER visits and what happened as a follow up. She sends me articles and suggestions. I always thank her and say I will look into it. Sometimes I actually do look into it, but often she doesn't fully understand what's happening. Otherwise, when she asks about Mom, I tell her I am keeping a journal of visits and medical data which is true. If something major occurs, I will fill her in. She seems satisfied with that now. It took time, but she finally realized she had to trust I was handling things as best as I could in her absence.

Commonly Used Abbreviations


DH = Dear Husband
DW= Dear Wife, Darling Wife
LO = Loved One
ES = Early Stage
EO = Early Onset
FTD = Frontotemporal Dementia
VD = Vascular Dementia
MC = Memory Care
AL = Assisted Living
POA = Power of Attorney
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