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Contesting my mom's will.

mpang123
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My sister told me about how family members fight over the will. I've been naive thinking black and white and that the will is going to be carried out as intended by my mom.

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  • JulietteBee
    JulietteBee Member Posts: 227
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    Your sister is correct. However, if your mom had her Last Will and Testament legally drafted, she should have assigned an "Executor of the Will." They are the one tasked with paying any final expenses from her estate before then parceling out to each, their "inheritance."

    If she did not do it legally, or does not have an executor, expect a fight. Someone who swears they were her favorite cousin, favorite dog walker, or favorite neice will come for their perceived inheritance. Some will make it so miserable for you that they will contest the will in a court of law.

  • SDianeL
    SDianeL Member Posts: 2,132
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    unfortunately when money is involved many people change. It’s a shame. Wills can be challenged in court. Hope that’s not the case.

  • mpang123
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    My mom appointed her grandson as executor of her will and is the sole beneficiary. The grandson is processing the will with the lawyer for probate. Hopefully the will is properly executed. My dad, on the other hand, is still hanging in there. He willed his grandkids as beneficiary. My sister said my dad's half siblings might contest the will and she probably would too! I'm so upset that they are so greedy. I was so naive to think that the will is thorough and precise so it can't be disputed.

  • Quilting brings calm
    Quilting brings calm Member Posts: 2,912
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    I suppose your mom’s will could be contested on these counts: 1) was your mom competent will the will was made- the lawyer probably can answer that. 2) Did your grandson unfairly influence her to make him as both the executor and sole beneficiary. 3) Does their state require a minimum amount to go to the spouse? That would be addressed in probate. Finally 4) Did Medicaid pay for any of your mom’s or Dad’s care and can Medicaid request reimbursement from her estate?

  • mpang123
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    Mom was of sound mind when appointing my nephew as sole beneficiary. No coercion from him. My parents does not have survivor benefits or rights of survivorship that I know of. My dad's will only named my mom as POA and did not mention a successor agent. My uncle is executor of dad's will and has medical POA. They don't have Medicaid. Things can get complicated and messy and I hope my nephew's lawyer will handle carrying out mom's will as best as she can. To carry out dad's will, my uncle in Canada needs to hire an attorney and go to probate court to execute the will accordingly. There's so many other things going on that I never thought would happen. I didn't expect that the wills are going to be challenged. Yes, I'm naive because I've never experienced anything like this before and don't know much about wills and legal and financial planning. I leave the dirty work for the lawyers.

  • H1235
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    I think money can bring out the worst in people. My family wills have been quite vague. Everything is to be split evenly among the 5 kids or 2 kids. This wording doesn’t account for jewelry or family heirlooms. The executor is left with a lot of power and responsibility. I can’t tell you how many times I have heard “ mom wanted me to have this or mom gave it to me I just hadn’t picked it up yet”. At my mil estate sale siblings bought the things they wanted, on the honor system. We payed 3 times as much as sil and got half as much stuff. But you pick your battles. My brother often tells me how mom gave him this or that. I’m executor to my uncle’s estate ( he is still alive). He has no kids, he is a hoarder, lives 2 hours away, has 6 or 7 nieces and nephews, and I have not seen the will. I think it’s going to be a nightmare. Dealing with an estate is just an ugly mess.

  • mpang123
    mpang123 Member Posts: 276
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    It seems like it's a common issue when family tries to claim their inheritance and it can get ugly.

  • mpang123
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    That's the problem. There is no POA for dad. There is no one to manage his assets but he has joint account with mom so I guess my nephew can still write checks from the joint account? All of my parent's bills are on auto pay from the joint account. Will my dad still receive SS check while alive? Does he need a representative payee? I don't know what to do when filing taxes. Hopefully my nephew's lawyer can sort everything out. I'm worried if everything needs to be arranged immediately. Is there a time frame to do all this?

  • Quilting brings calm
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    edited July 13

    The joint account is not part of the estate. your nephew has no authority to write checks on it. A joint account goes directly to the survivor- your dad. If no one else is on the account and there is no POA, the only way to access that account is if your dad signs a check that someone writes for him. If he’s not competent to understand what he is signing, then having him sign a check is elder abuse and fraud. Someone needs to apply for guardianship - unless your dad is competent enough to grant someone POA.

    You need to immediately contact an elder care/estate attorney. Not the one your nephew is using. Your nephew has no authority to manage your dad’s assets. You need to determine what your dad’s assets are. Did they rent? Was his name on the lease? If not, he has no authority to say in the place. If they owned a house, was the deed tenants in common orjoint tenancy with right of survivorship? If so, the house is not part of the estate - it’s your dad’s. If it wasn’t, then your dad could be thrown out of the house at any time.

  • mpang123
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    There are so many factors that are involved. I can't afford a lawyer but it seems like that is the only way to proceed in the right direction. I'm scared and uncertain about not doing the right thing and to face the repercussions of that. I need guidance in times like this. Just wished my mom didn't pass away so unexpectedly. We were bracing for my dad to go first. Now everything is backwards and all Hell's broke loose.

  • H1235
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    Do you think they are contesting the will because they want money or could it be they are concerned about your dad? It’s sounds like you are on good terms with the nephew that is the executor and sole beneficiary. QBC has brought up some good points about bank accounts and the home. Can you talk with this nephew just to see what his thoughts are regarding these things. It could be he is fully aware that $ in the shared bank account would go to your dad. When (not if) you or another family member file for guardianship I believe that if it is granted it would come out of his money. Is this something you are willing to do? If not is there another family member that can take on that role? Seems like a family meeting (or maybe some phone calls to figure out what everyone is thinking)and a trip to see a CELA is in order. What a shame you have to deal with all of this after just loosing your mom.

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