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Medicaid approval mess

H1235
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Mom was moved to a snf a few weeks ago. Her money is gone (or almost) and there was no way for her to pay for AL. I have spent the last few weeks getting everything they ask for. I have kept very carful track of money and receipts. They told me yesterday she was approved. I was so excited! I have been stressed about this since she was first diagnosed. Today I get an email that there is an account in her name that I did not disclose. I go to the bank and spend an hour getting approval for access to the account. Come to find out my idiot brother had moms name on his checking account. He is mad the bank gave me access (like I said I spent an hour at the bank, provided DPOA, letter of incompetence for mom and my drivers license). Obviously this is causing me all kinds of stress and work, but he has not apologized or taken even the slightest bit of responsibility for his part in this. He never even thought about this, because he gives none of this a second thought, I do everything. He tells me I should never been appointed DPOA, we should have hired someone, they would know what they are doing. I can’t imagine how this has become my fault. Keep in mind she only started with enough money to pay for one year of Al. She is not a wealthy person. I don’t see how hiring someone would have been cost effective with such a small amount of money. If someone had been hired, I’m sure they would not have put up with the bs my brother gave me regarding moms house. Im worried if this messes with Medicaid eligibility my husband and I, along with my brother may end up needing to cover some of the cost til there is approval. But I’ve seen my brothers bank account and I don’t think he is going to be much help. I’m so upset and overwhelmed.

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  • cdgbdr
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    I am so sorry and hopefully he has little to no money in his account. You don't need this aggravation and complications.

  • terei
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    You do not just add someone to your account with no documentation(her signature). When did they get this signature + is it legitimate? If it was me, I would do a little more digging about this.

  • H1235
    H1235 Member Posts: 1,147
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    I suspect it was added 20 maybe 30 years ago. He is/was a single man and probably saw it as a backup of some kind. It doesn’t surprise me. He claims he forgot she was even on the account. Mom has always been right there in his business, doing anything she could for him and he was fine with that. Probably why he can’t take responsibility for anything now.

  • ARIL
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    How maddening! I feel your understandable anger and share it.

    I agree with @terei: since you are your mom’s POA, you can ask the bank for comprehensive information about when your mother was added to the account and what her interactions with it have been. If it can be demonstrated that your mother never contributed funds to the account—and possibly never withdrew from the account either—then there may be arguments to be made to Medicaid that the funds should not be considered “hers,” especially if she signed her name to a signature card post-diagnosis. (I am just thinking aloud here.)

    You know this already, but I will say it anyway: there is NO universe in which this is your fault. When a POA sets out to locate the principal’s funds, she doesn’t just go into random banks and ask if Mom has an account there. She starts with bank statements and tax returns and other records. How could any POA have learned about this? Your brother may see that he has done something truly stupid and is just lashing out at you because he needs to blame someone, and tag, you’re it. You did not need to hire anyone else. You are doing just fine as POA.

    I am really sorry this has happened. But learning more from the bank—and even asking a banker’s advice—may be worthwhile.

    Your brother has put his own funds at risk too, since now you have access to them—as your mother’s POA. I doubt he meant to do that. Ridiculous!

    One more thing: it won’t be possible just to remove your mother from a joint account. If that becomes the goal, your brother will need a new account, funds will need to be transferred to it, and the old account can then be closed after he changes all autopay and direct deposits. (I went through a situation like this with my PWD who was in a joint account with a person who was susceptible to scammers.)

    So sorry. Hang in there!

  • H1235
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    I am certain she was added to the account prior to her diagnosis. He is closing the account Monday. I asked him to wait, since I don’t want to cause any red flags for Medicaid. He is still doing it Monday. He has said that mom never put money in the account or took money out. I have told Medicaid this. Hopefully there will be something we can show to prove that to Medicaid. The banker told my brother this is not a big deal, they have seen it happen before, but she is not the one to approve or deny mom for Medicaid. So I’m waiting to hear from Medicaid.

  • ARIL
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    Possibly the bank statements will be sufficient evidence, especially if they include facsimiles of checks. Fingers crossed!

  • H1235
    H1235 Member Posts: 1,147
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    Thankfully mom was still approved for Medicaid. What a relief! Unfortunately I think the relationship with my brother is beyond repair. He was more concerned about me having access to his account than the fact that moms Medicaid may be in jeopardy. I haven’t told him she was approved and I honestly don’t think he will give it another thought. Any contact with him in the future will be very very limited. Mentally and physically (my blood pressure) I just can’t do it anymore. Many of you have told me to limit contact (my husband has said the same thing) and I have just not felt comfortable with it. I think maybe this time I have learned my lesson. I hope things go a bit smoother moving forward. Thank you all for your support.

  • ARIL
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    Oh, what a relief that your mom’s Medicaid approval came through! Whew. I hope you can sleep well tonight.

    As for your brother… one of my teachers used to quote Friedrich Schiller: “Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.” You are absolutely not at fault here, you have done what you can, and I hope this is the last terrifying surprise he will pull out of his hat.

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DH = Dear Husband
DW= Dear Wife, Darling Wife
LO = Loved One
ES = Early Stage
EO = Early Onset
FTD = Frontotemporal Dementia
VD = Vascular Dementia
MC = Memory Care
AL = Assisted Living
POA = Power of Attorney
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