Gulp. So new I hope I’m reading incorrectly


New diagnosis. Hubby. I’m reading posts saying seven years, nine years. Still dealing with new memory failings? Issues. I did just order that book someone suggested. I just don’t think I can handle all this. Is this with treatment that slows progression or without? Go ahead. I’m obviously very naive and have no clue right? I just have no idea.
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I remember when we got our diagnosis it was so overwhelming. Doctors and social workers were speaking to us about future certainties that I had not even begun to wrap my mind around. This is my humble advice.
Use the diagnosis as an opportunity to show grace to hubby. There may have been many things that annoyed you about him and caused conflict. Consider that it is not his fault but the fault of this disease.
Focus on having a good day. Early in the diagnosis, do not dwell much on the future. Learn to be in the moment and take time to appreciate the occasions, no matter how small, when things are good. The exception to this advice is estate planning. Make an effort to make sure your estate planning is up to date based upon the diagnosis. Try doing this without bringing too much attention to the diagnosis.
Behave as if hubby has the diagnosis without talking to him much about the diagnosis. I guess if he wants to talk about it, that is ok. In my experiences, DW really knew she had ALZ but nothing good ever came from trying to discuss the diagnosis with her.
Don't try to figure everything out right now. Usually the disease moves slow enough that you have time to see what is coming. Today's occasional struggles are tomorrow's limitations.
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I can’t add much to the very thorough advice from @Timmyd. Just breathe and learn what you can from the book and from all of your new friends on this forum, which has been a lifeline for many of us. I think we all learn little by little as our loved ones progress. It’s not an easy time - no way to sugar coat it. For me, it’s been 4 years since diagnosis but I noticed issues 3 years before that. It is scary to hear the numbers like 7 years, 9 years, sometimes longer, but know that you become more adept at handling things the longer it goes on.
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Sorry you find yourself in our club. Wish it required an invite, we would not invite anyone. But, that is not the case. I struggled with the denial of a problem with my dear wife early on. It got so bad for her that she thought everyone was talking about her. Unfortunately, she hated the idea of the disease so bad, she referred to it as "crazy" and she knew she was not crazy. It was terribly difficult to weather that period but it passed. This site is the only resource of real value I ever found throughout our journey which ended about a month ago. Eight years from initial diagnosis of MCI to the end. I will tell you that I am glad that I finally came to a decision for myself and the caregivers we used to limit goals to this "make her day the best it can possibly be today". This disease changes so often and fast trying to play catch-up was a failure for us so I instructed everyone to just d whatever we could to make today as good as it could be for her in her world. That helped me survive. At least I could look back each day and feel that we did all that was possible that day to make it as good for her as possible.
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I'll only add that there's no one timeline, but there is a trajectory. Each patient is different, just as the set of behaviors for each patient is different but similar.
My DW was diagnosed with mild cognitive impairment in 2012, when she complained of some memory problems, but really consequential changes became evident in 2019. I was doing okay caring for her until 2023. By the end of summer, 2024, I knew she was headed for memory care, and I placed her in April of this year. So you could say I've been at this for 13 years, but the really challenging part has only been the last couple of years.
You think you can't do this, but you can, with our help. You learn to adjust, adapt. You decide what's really important and don't sweat the other stuff. This forum is the place for you to get actionable advice based on hard-won experience. Come back often. You are not alone.
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If you don’t mind me asking, how old is your husband? We know how you feel. It’s overwhelming. Depending on what type of dementia he has, it could progress slowly over 15 years or it could progress more quickly. There could be steps in the progression then plateaus or it could be downward more quickly. There is no way to really know. The doctors don’t know. Sadly there is no treatment to slow progression. Learn all you can about the disease and caregiving. Call the Alzheimer’s toll free number 800-272-3900 if you need to talk to someone. They may have resources in your area. You are not alone. We’re here for you. 💜
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To be honest, most of us didn't have a clue when we arrived here. Even those of us with a career in healthcare found ourselves in uncharted waters as a family caregiver. It's a rare family that gets much help from either healthcare professionals or family/friends, so this board is a lifeline—the place that has information about day-to-day life with a loved one with dementia and emotional support as we travel the well-worn but still unmapped way.
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I think this is extremely good and the kindest advice. We learn this over time but to see it in print is very good. As is all the other advice here. I start my day visiting this site if I can. Write, vent and ask questions it helps enormously.
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great advice
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@SpiralStylz
It's really hard to know what lies ahead at the time of diagnosis. Most folks seem to take it day-to-day creating a Plan B in the event they can no longer provide the best care to their LO.
As I mentioned in your last thread, the oral medications improve function, they do not stop or slow the actual rate of damage to the brain. Improving function might look like better focus, easier word-finding or being able to put on an outfit laid out for them without assistance. The impact on longevity with the infusion medications is hazier, in part, because they're so new. Currently, it seems as if they help a person with Alzheimer's (not vascular, FTD, etc.) remain in the earlier stages for ~6 months more than with placebo. Additionally, it seems that the infusions seem to have the most benefit for younger patients and men. Older patients, black and Hispanic patients and women in general don't seem to do as well as younger white men in this country.
Mt experience was as l7p mentioned. When dad had dementia, 2 of mom's sisters and the mother of a dear friend did as well. While they all ended up in the same place, their journeys were the same but different. None of them were young-onset which tends to progress more quickly.
Auntie was the first diagnosed around 2010 with vascular dementia. Family suspects she had symptoms as early as 2003 when her DH made a deathbed plea to her sister to "really take care of Auntie". My mom inherited a ring her BIL gave my aunt for their 60th anniversary; the jeweler had clearly swapped out the stones for CZs. Auntie was a good natured and lovely person and she mostly remained that way until she passed in early 2018. FWIW, the course of VD is typically shorter than ALZ on average.
Nasty-aunt was diagnosed with vascular dementia in the spring of 2016. Her family placed her in an AL facility not long after where she had a fall breaking her hip and wrist. She was stage 5-ish at the time of the fall but came out of the surgery in stage 7 and died in the fall of the same year.
Dad had mixed dementia (ALZ and WKS). I saw early signs of personality and executive function changes as early as 2005 and significant memory issues by 2008. Mom remained in denial and never had him screened or evaluated for dementia which is a shame as one of his was caused by a vitamin deficiency that is alcohol-related and responds to treatment and lifestyle changes. He wasn't actually diagnosed until mom almost died with him as her medical advocate in late 2016. His early stages progressed slowly, but stages 5, 6 and 7 were relatively brief. He died in spring 2018.
Nonna, friend's mom, was diagnosed in 2017 by her PCP. She was in her early 90s at the time and friend elected not to subject her mom to a full workup once bloodwork and imaging ruled out treatable conditions. Her mom seemed to progress fairly quickly, especially after Nonna developed breast cancer which had gone undetected since Nonna specifically opted out of mammography at 80 stating that she would not elect to treat having nursed relatives through it. It's not clear if the cancer was an exit ramp or if the 2 terminal conditions together hastened the end. She passed in spring 2019.
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Terribly sorry that you find yourself here. No getting around it, getting the verification of AL or some other kind dementia shakes the gound you walk on. When DH got his news last year, I was all gung-ho and had a really good attitude. "I can do this, I can do this with love and compassion, I can be self-sacrificing." But, no with DH already in stage 4 and the realization that at 85 I probably cannot do this alone. Even with 2 of our kids in the same town, they can't be here every time I have a dr. appt or need to go shopping because I shouldn'g leave him alone. I am now considering placing us both in assisted care. You have to know your own capabilities is what I am saying. Were I younger, I could have done this; now i cannot.
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Bless you for seeking understanding from those who have endured this crazy trial by fire. The "A word" has not been spoken in our home for the eight years since the diagnosis, due to hostile reactions. All cases may have similarities but they are all different too. Our suffering LOs will have certain triggers that set them off irrationally, but their moments of lucidity and occasional words of affection and appreciation, help to keep us going. What we had envisioned for this stage of our lives is a far cry from the reality it has turned out to be. But so what? Aren't we designed to deal with life's ups and downs? Sure, we get discouraged. But we find encouragement in unexpected places, such as this forum or special online relationships. Sometimes it feels like we are in survival mode, and from time to time, things get better. A certain medication, change in dosage, some caregiver ideas that help us to contend.
There will be both good and bad surprises. Celebrate and appreciate the good, know the bad ones are tolerable.You. Are. Not. Alone.
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Welcome. I am sorry that you are here with us. I am doing a lot of research on Dr. Dean Ornish’s study on diet and lifestyle changes to improve the progression of early stage Alzheimer’s. This is worth investigating. He had success in slowing up progression and in cases reversing the symptoms related to executive function and memory. I posted the link below explaining the study. I found a cardiologist who is following the program. Ornish had success with reversing heart disease with this program and realizing the heart and brain link, did this study.
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Most everyone is overwhelmed at first and at some point most just want to run away.
Your life is going to be forever changed by this journey. I think what is important is that you do have quite a bit of control as. to how difficult the journey is.
If you accept that you need Dementia 101 and dive in by reading everything you can get your hands on expecially any thing by Naomi Feil and the 36n hour day you will begin to learn the importance of non-medical treatment of the disease.
Then use this forum. It is maybe the best sorce of information available.
We are here for each other 24/7…we care!!!
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There is no cure. At best, some medication can slow it up for months. Other medications can assist with symptoms. We have all been where you are. This is devastating news. The best thing you can do immediately is get your legal affairs in order. Find an elder care attorney to prepare the necessary documents. There are posts that will give you everything you need to do. I highly recommend that you tour assisted living and memory care facilities and place your loved one on a wait list. None of us know what the future will hold with this disease. You don’t want to get to the point where you need to place your husband and can’t get him into a facility due to long wait lists of a year or more. Find an agency that provides in home care. Get all of your ducks in a row for when you need assistance at home. Look into a local day care center. Contact your local Council for the Aging and ask what is available. If he is driving, call your car insurance company and ask if an accident will be covered with the diagnosis. Companies offer driving tests to certify someone can still drive. An accident can put you in a position to get sued for everything you own. Spend the necessary time to get things in order and then do this: Live every day to its fullest. Plan trips, have fun, go out, spend time with family and friends. Don’t waste one minute of the time you have now. Make a lifetime of memories,and bring as much joy as possible into your lives. Take care of yourself, and come back here often. This site is a gift to all of us here.
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I echo Michelle's comments above. Try to have as many 'plan B's' in place as you can. Talk to family members about assistance you may require in the future. Tour memory care facilities and, if you find one you like, get on their list. Talk to a Certified Elder Law Attorney (CELA) about making financial plans for the future, as care can get extremely expensive and there are ways to structure your assets to make it easier. Find a home health care agency that provides care for people with Alzheimer's. Check into 'respite care' facilities (usually memory care facilities) in your area so that, if needed, you can place your loved one there for a limited amount of time to get a break. Talk to your doctor, make sure they understand that you may need medical assistance (anti depressants, anti anxiety, sleep aids) as things progress. If you haven't, find a specialist in dementia (geriatric neurologist or similar) who can monitor his progression and provide medications if/when they are needed. Think about changes you may need to make at home if he starts to wander (dementia locks, gates, etc) to keep both of you safe.
That's a lot of 'to do' lists that are painful reminders of what's coming. I think the most critical are the CELA and neurologist and memory care. In our case, my DH was doing pretty well at home for 12 years, then went into the hospital with pneumonia and had a complete breakdown, requiring immediate transfer into memory care and there was no time to plan, just a scramble to find a space anywhere. It was bad.
This will be harder than you can imagine. There will be times that you think you just can't do it anymore. We have all been there. Gather as much support around you as you can.
And, yes, take time to enjoy every good thing that happens. Lucid moments, dancing to music you both love, going out for an ice cream cone.
Come back here often. We have your back.
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Added to all the above, there’s a saying here: If you have seen one dementia patient, you have seen one dementia patient. What that means is that each person is different. Some might follow a stage chart pretty much exactly as to symptoms and average time in the stage. Others may never exhibit certain symptoms or could remain at any stage for a long time. Some exhibit symptoms from multiple stages My mom was diagnosed 5 years before her death, she was in stage 4 for almost all of that. Moved through stage 6 and onto her death in just the last few weeks. She never forgot who I was. Her death wasn’t really due to dementia because she also had COPD.
So get all the legal and financial papers in order. Make a PlanB for the possibility that you need to place him in a facility at some point. Talk to an elder care lawyer to get the finances ready. Start ‘dementia proofing’ your home. Yes, it’s kind of like child proofing. Then take each day as it comes. Travel until it’s difficult to do so- you will know when.
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I hear you…just the very thought of Alz is overwhelming. Keep coming back to this group. Try to take it one day at a time. Each day can be so very different. Lean on the folks in this group. All the best to you!
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I am very sorry you find yourself and LO on this road with all of us here. Everyday I think in the moment, “ I cannot do this”. I breathe deeply, I come to the forum and read or post. I journal. This is my way of coping. I am still here after three years on this road.
You can do this because you love. You can do this because you must. You will find your own way in this journey. We will be here with you to support you anyway we can.
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So much great advice. Always remember, there are no wrong questions, and there is no judgment when expressing feelings or anything else.
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Commonly Used Abbreviations
DH = Dear Husband
DW= Dear Wife, Darling Wife
LO = Loved One
ES = Early Stage
EO = Early Onset
FTD = Frontotemporal Dementia
VD = Vascular Dementia
MC = Memory Care
AL = Assisted Living
POA = Power of Attorney
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