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Questions for the neurologist & Can we keep it a secret for now?

Kekko
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Hi everyone,

We have an upcoming appointment with a neurologist — it will be our first since we received confirmation that my mom has AD, based on a recent PET CT Amyloid scan. I’d appreciate advice on what questions to ask during the visit. I expect we’ll discuss medications, side effects, and general care planning.

One major concern I’d like to raise is whether my mom might still be able to live independently. She hasn’t had a full psychoneurological evaluation yet, so I know it may be hard to assess. We’ve been hoping she could move into a senior living community where many residents speak her native language. Her doctor previously mentioned that socializing — making friends, going on walks, and building a sense of community — would be very beneficial. Unfortunately, while living with us, she has no one to talk to, as we’re in an English-speaking area. I want to add that she was living alone for the past 10 years until the last year when we brought her here in the US and now, she lives with me and my family.

I did find a senior center that caters to her language, but she refuses to go. That’s not surprising — she’s always been uncomfortable with group activities. What works best for her is having a neighbor she can chat with regularly, but that’s not an option in our current living situation - no people who speak her language around us.

Since learning the results of her scan, I’ve been paying closer attention to her behavior. She is not struggling with short-term memory but sometimes it takes a while to find the right word. But beyond that, she’s still very independent: she cooks, does laundry and ironing, gardening, watches TV, reads extensively, manages her medications, and maintains hygiene and grooming. Based on this, I believe she’s in the early stages of AD. She may be experiencing other symptoms — like anxiety or repetitive thoughts — but she’s unlikely to share them with me.

Today, she told me she had recently read a book about someone living with Alzheimer's and shared her fear that she might have it too — she's always been prone to health anxiety, so this reaction didn’t surprise me. She knows we have a few appointments scheduled with specialists. I tried to reassure her by carefully saying that memory and cognitive changes are expected at 76, and that seeing doctors is just part of staying healthy. My goal was to help her feel that many people go through similar experiences and it’s not something to panic about. I did not tell her about her AD.

I plan to give the nurse a written summary of my observations before we see the doctor. I’d like to ask that the diagnosis be referred to only by the abbreviation “AD” in the conversation. My mom doesn’t speak English and wouldn’t understand the term, but I worry that if she did, it would trigger intense anxiety. Is it possible to keep the diagnosis discreet for now? What is a general approach to this here in the US?

Thank you so much for your guidance.

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  • terei
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    This is a common strategy with many LOs. They do not need to know the details of their disease. We referred to my mom’s ’memory problems’ without any more information at all.

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  • ARIL
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    edited November 7

    Same here. We have not discussed the specifics of the disease, only “memory problems that many people have when they get older.” This seems to work better.

    Living independently would only ever be a stopgap; the disease can progress rapidly. I would be very wary of trying that experiment. More bluntly: that seems dangerous—even if not right now, then very soon. Another member of this forum, @H1235, recently said, “From the time of diagnosis to the time someone is no longer safe to live alone is very very short.” I think that is true.

    The language situation is a conundrum. Are there any other alternatives? Could someone from the senior center make a home visit or two? Maybe there is a religious organization that might make home visits in her language? Even just a few individuals who could come around—maybe hired companions who speak her language?

    I recall that @lisn2cats dealt with related issues with her mom. Maybe she’ll be able to suggest other possibilities.

    Wishing you the best—so sorry about the diagnosis.

  • Kekko
    Kekko Member Posts: 15
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    Thank you!

    I feel like Mom really needs someone closer to her age who can spend time with her. While we do things together like doctor visits and grocery shopping, it just doesn’t feel like enough.

    When she was living alone, I used to call her twice a day and handled nearly everything (but remotely) — phone calls, appointments, errands. Eventually, she stopped trying to manage any of her daily tasks and would tell me she simply couldn’t do it. I kept stepping in because I felt so sorry for her loneliness, and she often expressed how unhappy she was.

    Her psychiatrist — who’s also my friend — observed the situation and advised me to pull back on the support I was giving. I followed that advice, and after a few months, I noticed a real change: mom began making calls again and started regaining a much greater level of independence. The doctor explained that by doing too much for her, I was unintentionally causing her to lose essential skills.

    I plan to bring this up with our neurologist as well.

  • SDianeL
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    I never talked about Alzheimer’s with my husband. The doctor talked about white matter disease. I agree no need to talk about it. It will only cause her anxiety. The Neurologist won’t be much help. They may prescribe Memantine which is supposed to help their focus. I saw no difference but left him on it because he had no side effects. Did the Psychiatrist know about her AD when he suggested not doing things for her? Because very soon you will need to take over many things for her. She will be vulnerable to scams and financial problems. Can you monitor her bank account? Do you have a DPOA and Medical POA? You need HIPPA forms too. As the disease progresses her safety will be a major concern. Cooking is dangerous. She could start a fire. Just be sure to monitor her behavior closely. Things can change quickly. To get her to go to the senior center fib. Tell her they need her help. Go with her a couple of times at lunch. Ease her into it.

  • Kekko
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    Thank you!

    I'm relieved that it's possible to avoid directly mentioning the disease. Initially, I was worried there might be a rule requiring doctors to disclose the diagnosis to the patient, which concerned me.

    Our situation is a bit complex. About three years ago, my mom was prescribed Memantine for roughly a year. At the time, she was experiencing depression and anxiety, and she was evaluated remotely by a psychiatrist — a friend of mine — back in my home country. The evaluation wasn’t ideal due to the limitations of a web consultation. There, it’s common practice to prescribe Memantine to seniors, even without a definitive diagnosis.

    I spoke with our neurologist earlier this year about Memantine. She explained that it’s typically prescribed for individuals with a confirmed diagnosis of Alzheimer’s disease, particularly those in the moderate stages. She felt that my mom clearly didn’t need it at that time. Now, I plan to bring it up again and revisit the conversation.

    Her depression seemed to stem from our move to the U.S. I’m her only child, and she had always hoped I would stay with her and not marry. That emotional loss triggered her depressive symptoms.

    I don’t believe she was showing signs of Alzheimer’s at that point — at least nothing that was evident during the remote evaluation. In fact, she eventually regained a good level of independence, which suggests her earlier behavior was more rooted in emotional dependence than in irreversible cognitive decline. She had always leaned heavily on me, and I was used to solving all her problems. Things worsened after I moved away.

    Thank you again for your support and advice!

  • H1235
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    edited November 7

    Moms neurologist used the dementia word and unfortunately mom remembers. She sees dementia as only being about memory and since memory is the least of her symptoms she feels she is in the very early stages and should be fine to live alone in home. She worries about losing her memory and not knowing who her family is. I would watch and observe her very closely to determine if she is able to live independently. Sometimes a pwd is able to cover their problems. Im kind of ashamed to even tell this story. I took my mom to the dentist every 6 months for a checkup. At each visit she received a new toothbrush, floss and some toothpaste in a little bag. I assumed she would know to replace her old toothbrush with the new one. When I moved her from Al to a nursing home I found 5 bags from the dentist office. She hadn’t changed her toothbrush in over 2 years. When she lived with my brother he said she was fine doing her own laundry. I watched her run the washer twice without putting any clothes in it. I’m sure she eventually did a load that actually had clothes, but does that mean she can still do her own laundry? Being able to do basic things around the house doesn’t mean these things are done with ease. They may be taking a great deal of effort and concentration. This can result in stress and a worsening of symptoms. Another big concern for us was her anosognosia. She does not understand her own limitations. This could put her in a dangerous situation.

  • Kekko
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    Thank you for sharing! It is very helpful for me to read all those stories. Unfortunately, dementia has so many faces…

  • lisn2cats
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    Hi Kekko (as in "kekko-desu?",

    Sorry for jumping in late, but as @ARIL mentioned, I can totally identify with you! And, hopefully reassure you that you are not alone. I, too, am an only child. When my dad (American) passed in March, my 90-year old mom, who is Japanese, had such a rough go of it. Culturally, anything to do with mental health is a taboo and I had to be very careful how to address her declining memory and - eventually - her dementia and other brain-related issues.

    In addition to just the stresses of aging, stress of knowing (in her heart) that she is not as cognitively sharp as she once was, and - most challenging of all - English is not her native language. I speak a little Japanese but if I was suddenly sent to a rest home in Japan where no one spoke English, I know I wouldn't be able to cope well. It's so isolating. And, traditionally, most asian cultures rely on family to take in their elderly … even going so far as to send them back to their homeland (at least that's what my Vietnamese friends tell me). When I went to visit AL facilities, one of the first questions I asked were how culturally diverse their population were and dining options (my mom would rather die if she only had mashed potatoes and beef or sandwiches to choose from).

    She insisted for months that she was fully capable of living independently in her home. She was so not. Not emotially, cognitively, or physically. I was fortunate (!) to have two falls and, finally, an unforeseen house incident that forced her out of the house. My mother is empathic and feeds off my energy and mood. So I created a sense of panic and she willingly moved into a hotel then into the AL facility's respite (temporary) housing. Before she could permanently move into AL, she had to see a neurologist. My mom's English was good enough to understand that the doctor was a brain doctor - more specifically, she kept saying I was trying to get her diagnosed as crazy. Luckily (?), her memory loss helped me; I was able to later just say he was a doctor specializing in aging health and her primary care doctor wasn't an expert with older patients. I reassured her that any questions the neurologist were to get her baseline so if anything should decline, he would be able to see any changes. I actually did choose to share her diagnosis with her; I just couldn't lie when it came to her health. BUT I didn't use the actual word "dementia" or "alheimer's".

    She's very fortunately to have a small, tight, group of Japanese friends who visit her fairly often (though it's never enough) and I visit her once a week and we go to a Japanese restaurant. Once in a while I bring her homemade Japanese food and fill her small pantry with ready-to-heat foods. Mom is even more fortunate that she's made friends with a bunch of residents (she's introverted so this is HUGE) and even found a few who either lived in Japan or, more recently, someone who is half-Japanese and had basic language skills.

    She fell a few more times and the AL staff were so fast and quick to tend to her. As a result, she came to the conclusion, on her own, that she is much safer where she is, people are at her beck-and-call (not really but if that's how she feels, we'll go with it), and she calls it her home. She still complains here and there, and she still misses her independence - I just keep reminding her that she is pretty independent. She can go out with her friends anytime; she can bathe with privacy (she has to be cajoled into taking a shower but a firm, "do it now please" in Japanese from me or her best friend works); she can choose what she is going to eat (thanks to a restaurant dining-like set up the AL has); and there's a bunch of activities she can join if she wants. She doesn't like group activities - never liked games, doesn't have hobbies that she can do in AL, etc. Again, with some gently prodding, I've gotten her to at least go and sit in the room with everyone so she gets some socialization. After talking with staff, they added paper-folding and flower arrangement into the activities schedule; my mom got to show off her skills and help others, which made her feel included. She's also at the point where she is able to acknowledge that she wasn't doing well on her own and that she probably wasn't doing the things she was supposed to (like laundry, taking her meds, etc.) and that she was grateful for the routine, care, and attention she gets in AL.

    All this to say, our parents are resilient. It takes a lot out of us kids - and I am trying to be more empathetic and sympathetic by putting myself in her shoes - but I treasure every single day I get with her. Even the days when I have to block her from my phone, scream in my car from frustration, cry because I'm alone and scared, or yell at the gods above for making me an only child. Yesterday she celebrated her 91st birthday! Stay strong….if I can help in any way, don't hesitate to reach out to me. I feel that our situation can add a layer of challenges but it's not unique. Plus this online communtiy is amazing and have seen/been through it all.

  • Kekko
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    Hi, lisn2cats, thank you so much for commenting and sharing your story! Reading these experiences means a lot to me—it helps me feel less alone. I’m not even 40 yet, and most of my friends around the same age don’t face these kinds of challenges with their parents, since their parents are much younger (my mom is 76).

    When I was a teenager, I read a book about a girl who traveled to Japan. That book sparked my love for Asian culture. I still remember a saying from it: “Never say kekko until you’ve seen Nikko.” For some reason, that phrase came to mind when I was creating my profile here.

    I think it’s wonderful that your mom has Japanese friends, and I completely agree with you—her independence at 91 is remarkable. Many people would wish for that kind of freedom at her age!

    Our story is long and sad. My mom has always relied on me for everything. She divorced shortly after I was born, never had another relationship, and worked tirelessly to give me everything she could (and I appreciate it!). From a young age, I wished she would do something for herself, but her focus was always on me. When I became an adult and wanted to start my own family, she was shocked. She wanted me to stay with her forever (she lived with her mom all her life except the short marriage - I believe she expected the same from me).

    After I married and moved to the US, my mom fell into depression. For nearly 10 years, I was her remote caregiver. Although she was never properly diagnosed, I’m certain it was real depression. I supported her in every way I could, feeling guilty for leaving her. But it took a heavy toll on my family and career—I couldn’t manage a full-time job because I spent hours each day on the phone with her or solving her problems. Eventually, I was exhausted, and we decided to bring her to live with us in the US. We had concerns about finances and other challenges, but I couldn’t continue the struggle of remote caregiving. Honestly, I think I was depressed too. I regret about those years a lot.

    Now we are facing another challenge: her AD diagnosis. At her recent appointment, the doctor said she believes my mom is in the early stage. She plans to do genetic testing to see if new medications might help slow the progression. She also told me that we will need to tell my mom about her diagnosis later.

    Her diagnosis—and the reality that she will eventually need 24-hour care, whether from me or a facility (and we can't afford the facility) —has had a tremendous impact on my family, and not in a good way. Looking back, I believe her life choices—focusing only on me and never herself—contributed to her depression and may even have increased her risk of dementia. I regret encouraging her dependence on me. She often said she would die if I left her, and I was terrified by that. Maybe if I had set boundaries earlier, she would have found motivation to build a life of her own. To have some personal life, hobbies, interests. Something, that could keep her life meaningful regardless of me.

    " Higher PiL (purpose in life) was associated with approximately 28% lower risk for developing cognitive impairment and a later onset of cognitive impairment across the studied ethnic/racial groups, even among those with genetic risk for dementia. These findings indicate that fostering a sense of life purpose has the potential to reduce cognitive impairment and dementia risk. " - from one of the recent studies…

    Thank you again for writing your comment, I appreciate your support! ♥️

Commonly Used Abbreviations


DH = Dear Husband
DW= Dear Wife, Darling Wife
LO = Loved One
ES = Early Stage
EO = Early Onset
FTD = Frontotemporal Dementia
VD = Vascular Dementia
MC = Memory Care
AL = Assisted Living
POA = Power of Attorney
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