Now the hospital has him in a cage?

Eloise0304

Because he is so combative and aggressive they said they needed to put him in a Cage ( nylon netting). This was also done so he wouldn't fall. I think this is elder abuse but they said it was for his protection and the staff. Has anyone heard of this and isn't it elder abuse?

terei

Nylon netting does not sound abusive to me.

ladyzetta

Elder abuse would be strapping him down. They are trying to protect your DH from hurting himself and others around. Im not even sure strapping him down would be abuse, in this case. Hugs Zetta

Carl46

I have seen patients strapped down with leather restraints, after they tore up the less uncomfortable cloth restraints, but I have never heard of a nylon cage. The cage sounds a lot less abusive than the straps. They have to do something. One of the men I knew in high school lost his life after a kick in the head by a combative patient.

I know this is distressing. Mental illness is awful. So sorry for both of you.

CindyBum

This must be so distressing, but agree with the others. A nylon enclosure is not necessary at this point, but necessary due to his aggression. Goodness, this must be hard.

Gator1976

a friend of mine died being tied down on a hospital bed. They blamed it on his disease. Meanwhile they neglected to give him his Loui Body medication. No attorney would touch it. Sad, they killed him and got away with it.
using a net seems a whole lot better than the straps he endured.

Chammer

I have a friend whose DD had a severe neurodegenerative disease. In order to keep her safe at night when she was a still very mobile young adult and not sleeping well, she had a nylon net "tent" over her ay home hospital bed to keep her safe. It kept her in bed instead of wandering at night and allowed my friend to rest as well.

JulietteBee

I am an RN and have had to use that and other types of restraints for my patients' safety. The use of restraints have to be ordered by a physician and in no way do their usage qualify as "elder abuse."

I know that the patients' family & friends think it looks inhumane, but it would be a great tragedy if your loved one fell and died as a result of their fall.

Eloise0304

https://alzconnected.org/discussion/comment/251943#Comment_251943

They are taking him to the telemetry unit for more personal monitoring with the plan to keep him calm enough to be without the "cage', and get the meds right with the plan to do an LP to see if normal pressure hydrocephalus could be a issue and that the draining of the fluid would offer a benefit as he meets the trad of symptoms, as a nurse have you seen improvement with the LP for normal pressure hydrocephalus as he seems to have the triad of the symptoms shuffling gait cognitive decline and urinary frequency

Have you. Heard that the LP can eliminate some. Of this what what is your thoughts

JulietteBee

A lumbar puncture can prove beneficial to a person with NPH. However, the benefits are short lived. The cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) will reaccumulate. When it does, sadly, the symptoms will return.😢

easy23

My DH was put in a Posey bed when he fractured his femur and kept trying to get out of bed and walk. The bed kept him safe. He didn't have any adverse effects.

cdgbdr

Eloise. You have received good information. He really can't be at home with you when he needs this type of care.

HappyHelen

This is so hard to watch your loved ones going through this and you have to endure watching all I can say is pray for strength to get you through it.

Lorita

Have they tried Ativan? My sister was sort of combative when she was in MC- they couldn't give her meds by mouth but could rub Ativan an on her arms and it worked to calm her.

Eloise0304

https://alzconnected.org/discussion/comment/251960#Comment_251960

He is now in the telemetry unit for medications that can't be given in the general ward. I think I already posted this. Staff today told me he was more calm and not in the cage anymore, should I visit him now, or will I agitated him? Advice anyone?

Carl46

I would wait at least a day. Seeing you might trigger him to act out again. Sounds like he's getting good care. It's a good thing you took him to hospital.

jfkoc

"AI Overview

Enclosed beds, also known as safety enclosure beds, are specialized hospital beds designed to prevent patients from falling or wandering, and are typically used when a patient is at high risk of injury due to unsafe bed exits. Their use should be considered only after less restrictive alternatives have been exhausted and with a comprehensive assessment of the patient's individual needs. While they can be a protective measure, it's crucial to address the underlying medical and behavioral issues contributing to the risk. "

The behavior must be addressed another way.

dayn2nite2

https://alzconnected.org/discussion/comment/251955#Comment_251955

TBH, the likelihood that he has normal pressure hydrocephalus is SO small I wouldn't even have the LP done. If you feel you must, I suppose you can go ahead, but don't be surprised at the results.

Are you telling them that their discharge plan is NOT going to be going back home?

Eloise0304

it depends on how medication management is addressed. If he can remain at home, I want him there, but their discharge plan may involved for the ABILITY to remain at home. I want him to come home

Jgirl57

if you have the option to go home while he is in the telemetry unit, I would urge you to go home and rest .

Eloise0304

Need the reassurance, THANK YOU

jfkoc

If you decide to have your husband at home please have Plan B in place and please do arrange for some outside help.

Eloise0304

He is not in that contraction anymore I begged and demanded that they take him out. They did after hours of me demanding. He calmed down almost immediately, altho still agitated.

terei

You better reread all the posts you made before you even consider bringing him home. You were clearly on the verge of a breakdown and unless he has demonstrated literally days of compliant behavior and been able to tolerate you visiting with no aggression evident, you cannot possibly be seriously considering this.