Has Anyone Gotten Non-Driver ID in a new state for a PWD?

CaliforniaGirl-1 · February 3

Last year, we moved my extremely elderly LO last year across the country to be near me.

I would like to get them a non-Driver's ID for our state. I have been gathering up documents but there seems to be no way to do it without taking them in person to the motor vehicle bureau. I might be better off trying to just renew the last passport but that expired a few years ago. But that won't have the state of residence.

I just would like to have some valid picture ID with the current state of residency.

Have other people gotten new IDS for their PWD after moving?

BassetHoundAnn · February 4

That's an excellent question. Unfortunately I don't have an answer. I contacted our state DMV with that very question--how to obtain a non-driver's ID for my mom when I can't physically bring her in to the office--but they had no answer. Her bank requires an up-to-do driver's license or non-driver's state ID in order to make changes to her accounts, even though my name is on the accounts, so I'm starting to worry about what to do when her license expires, as it will soon.

M1 · February 4

Just curious in terms of why you might need it? If they can't travel even to the DMV, it would seem that the chances of needing it for other purposes would be pretty limited?

harshedbuzz · February 4

That's a really good question.

We just used dad's license from Florida when we moved him to PA when we needed ID. Ironically, he never should have had a FL license because he wasn't officially a resident there; his primary residence was in MD. He split the year between them pretty equally, but there were tax advantages to MD being the primary residence. He expired before it did, so we didn't have to deal with a renewal or getting a PA non-Driver card. That said, I had no problem transferring cars to his new address or even registering him to vote.

HB

Quilting brings calm · February 4

Have you called the DMV to ask them if they have a way of coming to him? You also don’t have to go to the closest location. Start researching various DMV locations within driving distance of you for ease of entry and how busy they are at various times. Some take appointments rather than walk ins

Mom’s out of state license expired. So I took mom to an area DMV that had easy walk in access to get an ID. The staff was so kind. They found chairs for her while I stood in line. They made the actual process as quick and easy as possible. Senior IDs in our state are permanent, so this doesn’t have to be done again.

I am if the opinion that you do need an ID. Medical practices ask for it as do banks etc

JeriLynn66 · February 4

I was able to renew my FIL's license online. The bank refused to accept his PERMANENT military ID.

DCCEPEK · February 4

In SC we have a Real ID system which is basically a federal ID as well. Required a lot of paperwork.

psg712 · February 4

I moved my mom from another state two years ago and took her to the DMV to get state ID. I had to bring POA. her out of state ID and proof of her residency here. She had a landline telephone at that time so the bill from the phone company worked for this. Probably we could have used the residency agreement from her facility too. Although she was much sharper cognitively at that time than she is now, she did not understand what she was doing there at all. Thankfully, the DMV staffer who assisted us was extremely patient!

I agree that some form of official ID is important to have. One example is a recent visit to the local hospital ER. Many people use stolen insurance cards to commit fraud at medical facilities, so hospitals often require photo ID.

CaliforniaGirl-1 · February 4

https://alzconnected.org/discussion/comment/196931#Comment_196931

Unfortunately that appears to be an organization at the other end of the state. But I will give them a call and see if they have any ideas.

CaliforniaGirl-1 · February 4

https://alzconnected.org/discussion/comment/196947#Comment_196947

Exactly! Banks and other organizations want what they want. Unfortunately this isn't a renewal.

CaliforniaGirl-1 · February 4

Thanks, these are all great ideas. I dread the idea of taking them to the DMV, particularly right now (recovering from a broken hip - my PWD not me).

But I will follow up with that organization that @Victoriaredux posted. They are pretty far away but they may have some ideas and I will call the DMV and see if they have some suggestions to make it easier and let me know exactly what documents we need.

We may never need it. But I would rather have now and not need it than suddenly find out we need it and not have it. I have a feeling this is not a thing that gets done quickly.

Also, @M1 was asking why we might need it. I hope we never need it but it would definitely make things more convenient. Even with PofA some organizations want you to have a picture ID for the PWD. Banks in particular come to mind. Also if I want to get them state services a state issued ID is proof of residence. Hospitals want a picture ID and rehabs as well. I think even social security wanted one. (may be mistaken on that) But we definitely needed one for the doctor. (Medical fraud as someone said is a big issue).

Speaking of banks - it is good to have a credit or debit card in your LOs name because in addition to the picture ID they often want a 2nd form of identification which can be a credit or debit card.

terei · February 5

It took us four visits to the DMV in Minnesota to get my mom an ID. They kept asking for more and more documents, including a death certificate for my dad who died in 1974. It was ridiculous. We should not have bothered. She was never asked for ID for any reason for the last 4 years of her life. She was not competent to sign anything, as in a new bank account anyway.

Quilting brings calm · February 5

Regarding Real Id. You don’t have to get a Real ID- you can get a regular ID. Real ID is only necessary to fly beginning in 2025 or to enter a federal building. A passport will also work for those two instances. Your state DMV website should list what you need for a regular ID vs a Real ID.

Dktp087 · February 6

We had to get a state ID for my FIL, and had the same issues trying to figure out if we had to go in, how he would handle the experience, etc. We moved him from another part of our state and he needed a current a photo ID with his new address for medical appointments and to establish services in our area. Calling the local DMV office was not helpful for his situation so I ended up reaching out the Secretary of State's office (they oversee the DMV here). After talking with several people and explaining the challenges FIL was facing, I ended up speaking with someone in the public relations/community relations office. He asked which location we could get to and called ahead to make an appointment during a less busy time. When we went in the staff was great. I had all the necessary documents and walked through everything with FIL. We were done in about 20 minutes. He had trouble signing his name, but they were fine with him making an X on the signature line since it was a state ID. Try reaching out to the community/public relations department of your DMV or the gov't office that oversees the DMV to see what options can be available.

Smilescountry · February 7

My parents had to get new IDs when we sold their house and moved them to assisted living. I got a list for what we needed online, then called the BMV to verify, which was very helpful. The day that we went, we took care of legal issues regarding their vehicle, getting Mom a renewed driver’s license, which she doesn’t need, and getting Dad an ID. He didn’t pass the visual test due to his Alzheimer’s, but he never knew, and the worker was very helpful and discreet. It didn’t take long at all because I planned going during a less busy time and was prepared. And, yes, I have used Dad’s ID many times since then.

mommyandme (m&m) · February 7

I too used my moms out of state DL for ID after moving her to my state. I also used her out of state wheelchair placard. Didn’t have any difficulties.

Has Anyone Gotten Non-Driver ID in a new state for a PWD?

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