New to Forum - Dad has ALZ
My Dad was diagnosed with mid-Moderate Alzheimer's in Oct 2023 (Interestingly, I had him do a 23+ Me and he carries the late-onset gene). He's 78. Since Oct, I feel like he's definitely gotten worse. The communication loops, for example, have drastically shortened and I believe that anyone that meets him would know in under 10 minutes that he has an issue. When gently reminded he has Alzheimer's, he laughs it off and says that my in-laws "are the same age and in the same boat". I genuinely don't think he understands.
I am the oldest of two daughters. He followed me to North Carolina after he retired claiming he, too, hated the Northern Virginia area. My little sister still lives in VA, has recently married and is planning for children, etc,. I'll be honest and say that the relationship with my Dad is complicated. We were very close when I was young, but he always had an explosive temper - and as I got older, he became exceptionally controlling (I told my therapist that he acted like a jealous boyfriend rather than a parent by the time I hit high school). He behaved similarly with my little sister (10 years younger) using money and his home as a source of control and manipulation. It wasn't until I didn't 'need' him that he finally softened and I was able to have a relationship that didn't feel heavy or one-sided. That being said, his level of clinginess has continued to be an ongoing issue. It often has felt that I need to prioritize him over my own spouse and children or drop what I'm doing to tend to something he would like handled immediately. I have worked hard over the years he's been here to establish and maintain what I feel are healthy boundaries.
Fast forward to present day. The clinginess has amplified in the last several months and I understand that it is common with Alzheimers patients to behave in this manner - but it is admittedly off-putting to wake up to 2 am texts about how he "loves me and misses me so much" and how he "never sees me anymore" (I see him at least every two weeks and it has shifted to weekly due to doctors appointments and various reasons). I have noticed a decrease in his late night texts after the use of Donezepil, but I question if it's the medication (because I have seen no improvement otherwise) or if he's just progressing further and texting is more cumbersome.
Wow. If you're still with me, I appreciate you so deeply. It's challenging to simply be like, this sucks. The complexity of our relationship has made this increasingly sucky for me because it's triggering things I have long since happily left in the past.
Anyway. The last three days have raised a red flag for me... and I could use insight or thoughts.
Day 1. I get three calls from him at 11 pm along with voicemails. He sounds distressed and is telling me that he "saw a Spectrum bill fly into his room". He went around the house looking to see who/what caused it and it freaked him out.
Day 2. At 3:30 pm, he starts calling and texting me saying he feels "poorly and sick". When asked his symptoms, he says a stuffy nose and a headache. He asks me to bring him medicine and I tell him I'll swing by in an hour as I'm in the middle of yard work. He calls 5 times within an hour to tell me "bring whatever medicine I have". I swing by with some Dayquil/Nyquil and while he does seem under the weather, his behavior now feels over the top as he's walking around and saying he already feels "so much better with me just being there".
Day 3. At 2 pm, he starts calling and texting about his front door and asking if I have a key for it. I do. He tells me that his key is not working. He literally unlocked that door to let me in the other day... He follows up later and basically says the same thing and notes that I had trouble opening it. I corrected him and said he opened the door without issue and that I would swing by today to come and look at it.
I can't tell if this is a ploy for attention or something happened in the last couple days that I should be concerned about. Nothing seems out of the usual when I go to stop by but this is becoming draining and I'm not sure what to do as a next step.
Deep sigh.
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Welcome to the forum. Several thoughts:
He is not in denial of his demenita, he has anosognosia. This is a feature of the disease that actually prevents him from perceiving his deficits. He truly thinks he's fine. Most here would tell you not to remind him of his dementia as it will just make him defensive.
He is sundowning. It is probably no accident that the calls and confusion are happening late in the day and in the evening. This is very very common. Medication can help, specifically atypical antipsychotics such as Seroquel or Risperdal. If he is to this level, this brings the third point:
He almost certainly should not be living alone. You don't mention a spouse/your mother: is he on his own? You need to think long and hard about that. He is susceptible to scammers and safety hazards. Is he driving? Also a huge red flag, he should not be.
If you plan to be responsible for his care going forward, you need to hold power of attorney for health care and finances. If you don't already have this, you need to talk to a certified elder law attorney ASAP (look at nelf.org for lists by location). They can also help you plan for how to finance long-term care, he may well already need to be in. assisted living if not memory care.
If you look to the right under Quick Links, there is a Group for new members that lists a lot of freqeuently cited information and materials. You have come to a good place for support, but sorry you need it. He is fortunate that you are still willing to have a relationship with him and oversee what is going on.
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Hello and welcome.
Any minor illness in a person with dementia, especially one who is older, can intensify the symptoms of dementia. You are looking at a preview of what will come, maybe in a year, maybe in a few months. With good care hopefully he will return to what you consider normal, at least for a short while. What I mean by good care is this: Retrieve the Nyquil (it will cause more confusion and work against the Donepezil, check future OTC meds for interactions using pharmacist or drugs.com) Get him to a doctor to get checked out (make sure you tell the doctor he has a change in mental status, give examples)- While he is recovering make sure he is getting adequate hydration, food, and not mismanaging medications.
If he is living alone he absolutely should not be. One of the hardest things to accept is that our LOs are just not capable of what they once were. Since they keep normal social conversation until very late in the disease and can manage routine things that they do frequently for quite a while, unless we are looking very closely we do not realize how many things are falling through the cracks. One of the things they are no longer capable of is being an accurate medical reporter of their own physical condition and being able to take care of themselves while they are ill. Their brain is no longer up to these tasks.
If he was diagnosed six months ago with moderate dementia he is highly unlikely to be doing any of the concerning behavior on purpose. Do check out the group with new caregiver info M1 mentioned, you might find the "Dementia Careblazers" youtube channel helpful.
Please treat this as a warning indicator, so that you will be prepared for the future. As much as we do not want to think about things getting worse, I do not know anyone who has regretted preparing.
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Hi Erin,
*I would say that if he's been feeling unwell and you've noticed a recent escalation that you do get a UTI ruled out by his provider.
Basically, his memory is now such that he won't have the ability to 'pin' a memory. So that means that he exisits in the here and now, and won't remember even very recent conversations or actions—without memory he won't have much sense of the passage of time, and his ability to use cues from the environment will be affected (for instance, he won't recall eating, can't tell if he's hungry, and won't be able to interpret the time on the clock or look out the window to know it's lunchtime). He won't be able to juggle information or stay on task, or recall conversations once he's hung up, but he'll pick up the phone every time he sees the trigger that reminds him he wants to call you. Additionally, the disease will start to affect his stored memories as well, on a 'last in, first out' basis, so he may not recall much of the last years, or that he had a dementia diagnosis. At this point in the disease it's a bit easier to try to meet the person in their reality rather than trying to orient them to events they can't recall. While we raise children to expand their world through new experiences and stimuli, it's the opposite for the person with dementia—routine and sameness help them get through the day, and new tasks and juggling new information or making decisions becomes difficult for them.
Like M1 said, he'll need more support. If an emergency occurred he might not be able to rescue himself. What his care looks like will depend on his resources. Plans should realistically take into account what can work well for caregivers too, knowing that his needs will increase and that people with dementia need a lot of oversight. A lot of times a parent is moved to an AL or MC near a primary caregiver who keeps an eye on things. I found it a real challenge to work and have my mom with me for a bit, and there's no way that it would be a feasible long-term solution for her or myself given that we always would butt heads.
I found it helpful to learn as much as I could about the disease—it didn't make my mom's behaviors less frustrating, but understanding the source helped me be more patient and be able to find ways to try to set up protections for her. The forums are a great start.
I like these as well:
Tam Cummings assessment tools/AD checklist
Understanding the Dementia Experience:
Moderate stage changes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cZTgG6kDjs
5 losses:
Teepa-multiple videos:
Careblazers-How To Convince Someone With Dementia They Need Help:
Careblazers-5 mistakes to avoid:
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Welcome Erin, you've come to a very supportive community. Members here have gained a lot of wisdom through experience. Please reach out as needed.
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Wow. Thank you all so much for not only taking the time to read my lengthy post, but to respond to it so thoughtfully, and with such care. I really appreciate all of the feedback, resources, and links!
As a quick update, my Dad joined my family and I at my in-laws house (a few minutes down the road from him) yesterday for dinner and he seemed completely fine. Still a bit stuffy, but otherwise in excellent spirits and chatty. You would never have known that any of the drama from the previous three days had occurred - nor did he bring up anything 🤯
He does live on his own and he does still actively drive - though only within a couple miles at most. I take him to all of his doctor's appointments or anything that exceeds 15 minutes. The doctor didn't seem particularly worried and told me to simply watch for red flags - with safety being the primary focus of intervention (both in living alone and driving). That being said, he was already a questionable driver… and his license expires this January, which will require him to go in person to renew. I was disappointed to learn that they no longer require the sign test as part of the renewal process so I'm unclear how I can intervene as I would prefer he wasn't driving around either - but again, it's the grocery store and his favorite restaurant (he goes almost daily for dinner) which are right by his house.
I also agree about the scammers. We've already navigated a couple issues in the last couple years, which is part of the reason I took over his finances last year. He agreed to a springing power of attorney when he was diagnosed and made it require signature from two doctors to activate, which is not ideal but could be worse. The only issue is that his PCP moved a couple months ago and he has not yet met his new one - so I'm not sure how to get that moving.
Last, I agree about living on his own - my preference since he moved down here was a retirement community. He was always very social and I strongly believe it's in his best interest to find people of a similar age, and pick up hobbies and activities instead of spending endless hours glued to his television set. Instead, he opted for a house that's too large for him to care for in hopes me and my family would live with him (despite my feedback that we wanted our own home). But, this is where things get tricky. His aunt, who he was very close with, apparently had dementia and was placed in a rundown nursing home until she passed. He has a deep seated fear and resentment of nursing/care facilities and strongly believes that a retirement community IS a nursing home. He has repeatedly told us he never wants to live in one. No matter what.
My little sister has expressed interest in having him live with her, but I have a LOT of reservations about the idea. As I mentioned previously, she is newly married, she is newly expecting, and most importantly she does not have the space to house him. She said that she wants him to be present for the baby and that she doesn't mind keeping an eye on him, but all that tells me is that she is either uninformed or in denial of the struggles that lay ahead. I also do not have the space for him in my own house, but if I'm being honest, I don't know that I would be comfortable with that scenario even if I did. I feel bad saying that, but as previously shared, there are a lot of complexities in play and boundaries formed as a result of unhealthy behaviors on his part.
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Erin, what you are describing ARE the red flags. You are going to need to make plans for changes that he probably won’t like and won’t agree to. I hope you have Hippa privileges, as you are likely going to have to have some serious discussions with the new doctor. You need to be very frank and explicit with them about your concerns.
The reason he is sitting in front of the TV is that he has lost executive function to initiate or carry through other activities. His disease is likely more advanced than you realize-we all tend to underestimate how affected our loved ones are.He should not be driving. Lives are at stake. Short distances don’t matter.
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I do, yes - thank you for that insight. I appreciate it and will schedule a time with the doctor ASAP.
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My moms pcp scheduled her for a virtual driving test. She never ended up going because the neurologist told her no driving no question about it. So maybe there is something like that near you. In my state you can go online and report someone you think should not be driving. They do ask for reasons why, scrapes on car, fender benders, medical reasons etc.
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The Alzheimers diagnosis by itself should be sufficient for the state to refuse to renew his license. The doctor could help you out by being the bad guy and telling your dad that he can't drive anymore.
100% agree that he should not move in with little sister. It isn't unusual for the family who live at a distance to have an unrealistic view of the loved one's capacity. She has no idea how this would affect her life, new marriage, adjustment to parenthood.
You sound as if you have a more realistic perspective of what is ahead than your sister does. Stand firm with your boundaries, both for yourself and family AND your dad's best interests.
M1 is right ... most of us still think our loved ones are more capable than they really are. I know that was true for me with my mom. Even though I was the one in the family who recognized she wasn't safe at home and took action to move her, reality still stunned me after the move. People asked if I felt bad about moving her to assisted living; after the fact, I only felt bad that I hadn't done it sooner. She needed it that badly.
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@erincro007 just joining in with others that your dad sounds like he will likely need a higher level of care - whether with family or a facility - sooner rather than later. Those signs - the calling, the loss of functioning, and the neediness - very much preceded my mom getting much worse. That said, it sounds like you have already done a great deal of work in preparing yourself for this.
When I called the Alzheimer’s hotline, before things spiraled out, they told me it was the exact right time to make a plan. And it was.
You are doing all of the right things. The driving is priority #1. Also echoing @psg712 - children of parents who had bad boundaries before dementia require a special kind of support. It can be done, but it’s really good you are going into this eyes wide open. I hope you find as much support and perspective on this forum as I did. It’s been a real life saver as I care for my mom.
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