an awful lot of tears here
Hello dear community,
So, um, I am thinking that the amount of tears I am processing through might be considered excessive by others. I am in a support group and in counseling and I have medicines on board as support. Some folks pointed out to me that I clearly need to talk this out a whole lot more than most people have the bandwidth for and they gently guided me here to you all. I am grateful.
I've learned here the term anosognosia. I think both of my parents have this unawareness of the depth of their needs for help. Dad has had an Alzheimer's diagnosis for several years and has been in an infusion treatment program that was working well until it really didn't. We've been in crisis mode since mid May for him. Mom and Dad are divorced and I am an only child. Mom's physical health really got rough this past winter. I felt like I had to really push for her to get the care and attention she needed. When someone finally saw her (a Nurse Practicioner specializing in Geriatrics) Mom's MOCA score was 1 point outside of dementia range.
Both were still living independently in Mid May.
The crisis mode is lifting a bit in the sense that Dad now has memory care and is closer to my home rather than several states away. He is not happy, but he is safe. When he was raising me he had to make me mad sometimes, but I knew that it was for my safety.
Mom has her neuro eval next week.
And now it's like all of the emotions are hitting me fully. I have always cried easily and felt things deeply. Dad is really unhappy and just wants to "go home" but he also thinks many things that show his cognitive state and made him fall prey to scammers. Like - they convinced him that he was on a presidential committee and that he had to pay other members out of his personal accounts because he was leading the committee. They had him rushing out to express mail checks all over sadly. I am so thankful that something worse didn't happen in his stressed state of mind while driving to the post office.
I am trying to go through things in his home - like sorting through papers and cleaning out the scammer junk mail that had begun to pile up. So as I do this I am just allowing myself to feel and to cry. I seem to move through it in little chunks and then I go back to work on another closet or another drawer.
Anyway, I am glad you all are here. I am glad that I found my way here. I think I am okay-ish mostly and processing as I need to, but I do notice the way folks seem to be worried about me. I think I am doing what I can to be as okay as I can be, but I miss my Dad and my Mom. And I am sad. I think folks are busy with their lives and kinda just wish I was still the old me. And I so am not. But in my estimation - it's with very good reason. I am experiencing different kinds of grief and loss and fear and stress while trying to figure out finances and moves/travel over many miles. Plus I honestly believe that neither one of them realize the depth of their needs.
Thanks for "listening"/reading. I've been reading your posts off and on today to help me hear and understand your stories. I feel like I am getting to know some of you here and that truly does help a whole lot.
May we be well 💜
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Hi I am new here as well. Sorry you are dealing with this with both parents! I have been told they aren’t aware due to Anosognosia. It’s a struggle and you are doing it alone. It’s a lot on one person. And they also call it the long goodbye. Of course you are not ok. You are grieving and having to make long term decisions and miss your parents no how could anyone expect you to be the same person. Just no you are doing th right things getting care for both of them and having them close to you.
My father suffers from dementia as well. I will be bringing him to live with me this week and he thinks it’s for a visit. I too am doing this with out other family members help living in another state. It takes a toll. Just know we are all here for you. Allow yourself to grieve and cry it is ok. You need to be able to do that. Blessing to you.3 -
Thank you so much for the reassurance. We do seem to have several aspects of this journey in common. I read your recent posts about making your decisions currently. Several of your sentiments really resonated with me. It is tough to see them want to and intend to plan and yet no longer be able to do that sort of mental task (of planning and organizing for a move, for instance). Very relatable. And yes, they don't realize their depth of need. Someone suggested to me that I remember to bring my focus back to his safety and my sanity over and over again as I adjust to these new responsibilities. My Dad was also losing weight and having trouble managing meds. He really wasn't safe to be on his own anymore. I read the replies to your posts, too, and they helped me with my situation so much also.
Thank you for writing out this sentence: "Of course you are not ok" Needed that.
Sending you well wishes for the travel and move this week. Lifting up prayers for you over the miles.
Take extra good care of you also as you move forward with these care plans. 💞
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Hi Jen ht - a lot of us are doing the best we can with what we've got. And yes, I think safe to say all of us are grieving the LO we 'no longer have' because of 'this'.
Dad is safe - that is a load off your mind. You can still be his advocate and watch out for him, but good there are other hands-on folks with him, now.
All of 'this' is hard to deal with. Much support and commiseration here.
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It's good that you have counseling & support for your mental health. I finally started counseling at the end of year 4 of caregiving. I wish I would have started it sooner.
I care for my 92 yr old Vet FIL. He has no clue he has Alzheimers & Vascular dementia. The past 2 days he's packed everything from his room thinking his daughter & her son Jr. is coming to move him. She's not coming. She's 8 hrs away caring for her husband with Alzheimers. She couldn't have children so there is no grandson named Junior.
It's been months since I've taken a day to spend with my best friend. Thankfully she understands. I'm working on getting one of my respite days to be on her day off so we can start our lunch dates back up. I definitely don't feel like my old self either.
My heart goes out to you. This forum has helped me a lot since I found it months ago. Even just reading through others going through many similar issues.
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You are very welcome! I felt very misunderstood and kinda alone in this until I found this forum. It so comforting to talk with others who can actually understand what you are going thru.
I find everyone outside of know about or having been thru it has a lot of ideas and opinions but no one would help. If they did help it wasn’t much at all.
Im happy I was able to bring you some reassurance and comfort.Thank you so much for the support, blessings and prayers.
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@jen ht
and others.
I am also an only child who moved parents closer to assume the role of caregiver. My situation is a little less extreme in that my parents were married and mom was mostly cooperative with the decision though the logistics were all on me while she managed dad’s hands-on care until he went into a facility. Fast forward 8 years since the initial move and I am starting to see memory, executive function and word finding issues in my mom and am not coping well. I am not entirely sure I have it in me to travel this road a second time and it terrifies me.Unfortunately, when your parent gets a diagnosis they don’t give you a handbook telling you how to emotionally process the situation “appropriately” because there is no such thing. FWIW, I helped clear my aunt’s home when she went into a MCF and I supervised the sale and clear out of both my parents houses and can attest it is a uniquely sad task shifting through it all. Having someone with you can lighten the emotional piece if you can manage it.
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Jen ht, this is real grief, though those who haven't lived it won't necessarily see it that way. But I think if you were grieving a parent who had died, you still might find that a lot of friends "don't have the bandwidth" for all of the processing you need to do. Even more so the losses of dementia, the long goodbye.
Even after traveling this road for several years, the grief still takes me by surprise at times. I get used to my mom’s current state, then I come across a picture of her from years past and I think "that's my mom!" And I miss the person she used to be, who is mostly gone now. You have come to the right place. We get it.
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@hb, that is a scary thought ... a second trip down this road. I hope it's not what you think it is ... but you certainly have the experience to know. Yes the emotional processing handbook would be great. This forum is even better!
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just adding to what others have said - you are definitely not alone! Buckets of tears are appropriate. But the truth is with your dad, the hard part is over. You can vent here as much as you need. And you will find great advice from others who have been down this road.
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Hello kind community,
Dad continues to have trouble adjusting to his MC near my home. It's totally understandable. I get it. I traveled out of state to come to his house to storm prep and find papers and clean, etc. and generally just "be away" so he can establish routines and relationships at his new home.
I thought I had turned off messaging capability for the Alexa after some sound advice here in this community. Thank you. Apparently it was only for a period of time. Today I got a very upset message from him that he would get a lawyer to get this all straightened out and to get him back home. Ugh. That one stung a whole lot. So now I've turned off messaging AND I've set an alarm to check it regularly in case it comes back on again after a window of time.
This may sound cruel, but this is crushing my soul and I've just got to protect myself so that I can continue on doing what needs to be done for his care. It was already a very difficult (and abrupt) decision - as you all know so well.
Ugh.
The only thing in the message that gives me a bit of a sense that I am still doing the right thing is his reference to needing to get to work on a job that he did while I was in high school (many years ago). Then I nodded and reminded myself that several health professionals have diagnosed his Alzheimer's and that it was going to continue to decline beyond not eating and scammers. It's unsettling how much I have to remind myself of that. I really do constantly doubt myself. Then I have to pause and take a deep breathe and remember that he was a danger to himself and to others. I had to act. It was scary.
I travel back home tomorrow. I am ready to be home.
Your messages and your own stories in your posts about your journeys are nourishing my spirit. Strength for the road ahead. Truly - many thanks. I wish we didn't find ourselves together on this path for the shared reasons of dementia care, but I am so grateful that you generously share your wisdom and experience. Your guidance and experience are treasured.
One foot in front of the other, right? With occasional steps backwards even.
Carrying on 👣
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Thanks so much. I saw in your profile about educators. My parents are both retired educators. Yes, the coping strategies kept lots of people (even in medical field) thinking that they were a-okay fine.
You're right. He's safe. I have to keep that forefront.
I hope it's been an okay day (or even better) for you.
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Oh my goodness! My Dad keeps packing! And saying various random people (that I don't know) are coming to get him.
Thanks for your message scoutmom. I really, really hope your day matches up with your friends day. Sounds like needed heart to heart time. I'll be thinking of you.
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Oh HB, oh… I understand that not coping well. I do wish we had that handbook you mentioned. For your situation of noting executive function issues and the second time around part. Well, I'm just kinda sitting here feeling with you. My hand is patting yours in spirit. Or your shoulder. Or whatever feels like a kind presence for you. Know that I am extending that your way.
And the shifting through absolutely is a uniquely sad task. That wording hit home.
May we be well
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Thank you, psg. Yes, grief is a heck of a process. Sometimes when I am out and about attempting to accomplish needed tasks I can feel the tears of grief just barely under wraps. And sometimes the tears just flow before I can get back to the car. Definitely learning a lot about the layers of grieving. I appreciate your reply.
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Hi Anonymousjpl. Thank you for the encouragement about the tears and the venting and about not being alone.
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Jen my partner has been in memory care for over two years and still packs up. She is in bed most of the time and an extreme fall risk when she’s up, but the behavior is still there. Just telling you that so it doesn’t upset you if it continues. Good for you, you are doing the right things.
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Hi jen ht!
This post really resonates with me, as it seems to with so many on this forum. I am so sorry that you are dealing with this situation, especially both parents at the same time. There is no way you could be ok, and not be overwhelmed and emotional. It is so much for anyone to deal with, especially when the load is all on your shoulders alone!
I lost my mother to Lewy Body Dementia last August and was the main person getting her to appointments to figure out what was wrong and then making decisions on her care. Then I immediately stepped into caregiving for my father, who I knew was having memory issues as well as other issues managing life on his own (didn't even pay bills once mom was too sick to manage). I got him to a neurologist in May, after his PCP finally helped convince him to go. He was diagnosed with Alzheimers, and I got a rude awakening that his cognitive impairment was far more serious that I even knew. At that appointment I was told that he is no longer allowed to drive and needs 24/7 supervision. So I am now in the process of trying to get him into an assisted living community (as he is having similar issues as your father, with not eating and being taken advantage of financially), and I know it is going to be a major fight. I made the rookie mistake of trying to reason with him and convince him to go, and you can imagine how that went. And like you, it is all on me to make the decisions and make things happen. I have serious anxiety when I think about the move, as I would like to make it happen this weekend, for his safety and to cut off the manipulators taking advantage of him. Like you, I am really struggling with it all. I am preoccupied all of the time with the situation and go from being sad, to angry, to resentful. I don't feel that I even got a chance to grieve the loss of my mother before this all started with dad.
All of that was to say that you are definitely not alone, and I appreciate you and all of the others on this forum who share your experiences. This has been the one place/community that has helped me to feel not so alone in dealing with this very cruel disease that robs us of our loved ones. I hope you are able to find some peace, but you are certainly within your rights to not feel ok and cry it out!! This community will be here for you!
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Hi M1, I appreciate the heads up. Thanks for letting me know this. I think I am slowly wrapping my head around what I am seeing and beginning to ease up on thinking that some of the behaviors might improve. One of my friends calls it reality math. And the self doubt is strong. So I also appreciate your input that I am on the right track. Thinking of you lots.
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That sure is a lot to navigate. I am sorry to hear of your layers of losses.
The appointment in May with the round the clock supervision and driving changes had to be heavy. Yet we have to go right into trying to find care mode and task completion mode - when we're still processing through the cloud of difficult news.
Mom's neuro eval testing is today. I am wondering if I might end up getting similar news to what you've described here about your father.
I'll be thinking of you as you look to make the move this weekend maybe. Wishing you well.
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Thanks Jen ht! I appreciate your kind words and thoughts. One of the many things that I love about having found this community is the fact that the people here are able to send so much love and support to each other, while also struggling with our own battles. I wish more of our society was like this community. I will be thinking of you today as your mother goes through her testing. Just know that no matter the outcome, you have this as a support network and we are here for you, for whatever your needs may be. Please feel free to message me anytime!
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