Need immediate support
Hi everyone, I am in need of some immediate support, advice and good vibes! Today was the day that I was to move my dad into the very nice AL community that I had secured for him. However, he has had a few people filling his head with BS, and further convinced him that he is fine and they will "take care of" him, which is complete crap (one is the person taking financial advantage of him/felon; and the others have no idea how he really is other than their brief couple hour check ins.) So, when I took him there today, he became belligerent, screaming, cussing, threatening to take me to court, etc. I felt my only option at that point was to bring him to the ER, to hopefully have him admitted. I am at my wits end with all of this. My health, career and other relationships are suffering because of all I am trying to do for him, simply to avoid the inevitable crisis and keep him safe. What am I supposed to do after this!? I am his POA, so I don't think I can legally "walk away", but the damage has been done to our relationship. Any advice or support is much appreciated!
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Forgot to mention that we are currently still at the ER. I'm not sure what happens from here :(
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I’m sure there are others that know more about this, but here are my thoughts. As DPOA you should be able to talk with doctors and fill them in on what is going on. Don’t hold back. I think the goal might be to get him to a geriatric physic hold facility so that medication be administered and he can be monitored while they find something that works. I would stress he has no place to go! I would not say you can take him home with you. I assume the AL facility will want him calmed and medicated before he comes back. Force them to address this or they may just send him on his way with a mild sedative. I think you can request or maybe petition for psychiatric evaluation if they are dragging their heals. I am so sorry you are having to go through this! I hope someone with more experience will be able to give you more confident advice.
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Thank you for your quick response! I am absolutely refusing to take him home. I just explained everything to the doctor so I'm hoping she will do the geriatric psych hold as you suggested. Thank you so much for that idea. I am just at a loss...things to make an impossible situation even worse, for all parties.
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I am so sorry you have to deal with all of this @snicholson.
Sadly, due to the nature of this disease, it seems very few of us are able to get our loved ones care in an easy and smooth way. My mother absolutely did not want to move to AL. That move was actually ok, as she was moving closer to me, but for a month she was miserable. She was angry and agitated and called me 30 times a day. Soon it got to be too much. She did eventually have a breakdown, which led to ER visit, which led to memory care.My point is as PoA you are doing everything right. You must keep him safe. Also as someone with dementia he may truly not believe he needs care. It is gut-wrenching but it doesn’t matter.
@Chug is absolutely right that this is the time to be up front with the doctors . My mom’s visit to the ER was the first time she really did get a thorough work up. People saw what me and other family members were seeing.
is there anyone else who knows what’s going on with your dad? Having a least one other person who knows can be so helpful, even just so you know you are not crazy.
Believe me, it will calm down. It’s ok if your other parts of life are falling apart right now - it’s a fall apart kind of thing. But it will get settled. You may be surprised how ready he will be to repair the relationship when it’s all done. I’m so sorry this is so hard. But it’s not at all uncommon. Try to get some rest and dinner tonight. You will need it.
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Thank you for your response! He is convinced that he is totally fine, and just thinks I am an awful human for doing this to him. I do have 2 other people who know what is happening and are fully on my side, so that really does help me from questioning myself as much. I am really digging my heels in here at the ER, as it feels like they are wanting to discharge him. He's lucid and angry, so very convincing that he would be capable of taking care of himself when talking to the staff. However, I have the letter from the neurologist stating that he lacks the capacity to make medical and financial decisions, and I will not take him home. So hopefully that is enough for them to do something!
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You are doing exactly the right thing. You must continue to stress that he is a danger to himself and others (you) if discharged and that you cannot safely care for him at home. Keep saying that, over and over.
He needs the geri psych stay and then he may well need memory care, not assisted living. Be prepared for that. If he gets aggressive towards you there in the ER, well and good because they'll see it.
So sorry, I had to do this too and know in spades how hard it is. Don't worry about long-term damage to your relationship, he may well forget down the pike. Safety drives all the decision making at this point.
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Thanks M1! I have been wondering about the memory care too, after this. I worry that even if they keep him here and adjust meds, he will just leave if only taken to AL afterwards.
It is just so frustrating to know he has been influenced by others who are either toxic, or don't know the whole situation. I feel that something broke in me today. I'm exhausted 😩
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M1 is so right about being a harm to himself or others. This is the determining factor on what happens next. I would come up with as many examples of things that make him a harm to himself or others as you can and just repeat repeat. You are doing the right thing!
You talked about him going back to AL. Will they allow him to go back. If he was that out of control they might not want him back.
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You have to remember that the saying here is that by the time most families consider assisted living, that ship has long since sailed and what is really needed is memory care. We all tend to overestimate our loved one's capabilities and underestimate their need for support. Hopefully the discharge planners on the psych ward will have some familiarity with the available options but best to do your own research too.
keep us posted.
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Knowing that dad would leave AL is why I decided to go with MC. So I hear your concern on that - for sure. Your sense of it is uniquely fine tuned in my opinion. These others won't have to fund his care nor step in when things get worse.
I am in your corner and pulling for you.
His safety and your sanity - someone suggested these to me as a way to bring my attention back to the main thing.
Imagine us there. We're just in the very next room. We're pulling for you.
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Thank you all for your advice and support, it is always so appreciated! You helped keep me grounded tonight. I left to come home, as they are admitting him for at least tonight. I will update as things progress. ❤️
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Hi everyone! Just wanted to update everyone on how the situation with dad progressed and turned out. After several days of an emotional rollercoaster ride, I finally was able to get dad to his AL apartment yesterday. I had to have a very serious and unpleasant conversation with the family members, who had been working against me, in order to make it happen. It took really breaking the severity of the situation down before they agreed to help convince him to go. However, once we all arrived in his apartment and they seen how nice it truly is, I think everyone agreed that I made the right choice and found a really perfect place for him. Dad was even able to look at me and say "you found a really nice place for me." He still believes that it is temporary, but the fact that he is there, safe and was actually smiling and talking with his new neighbor/friend when I left last night gives me such a great sense of relief. Thank you all, again, for being by my side for this extremely difficult and exhausting ride. I know this won't be the end, but this was a giant feat in the battle!
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Good news. Keep us posted how it plays out.
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I've been wondering how you were. Thanks for the update. We celebrate every victory. Take care.
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Excellent news and great work by you as caretaker. Please keep us posted.
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awesome! I’m so encouraged by your battle win!
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