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How do I convince my mom to sign a medical and financial POA

smtissier
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Hello! First and foremost, I am so very thankful for this site. It is a wonderful feeling, knowing that you are not alone in this craziness that has up ended our lives. My mom is afflicted with Alzheimer’s and dementia. She’s 74 and was diagnosed last October. I would say she is pretty much status quo for how she is acting. She is pretty OK most days. Until we start obsessing about things which always creates a problem. I have been trying to get her to do a medical and financial POA and she can’t rationalize it so therefore she refuses to go see our friends son who’s an attorney. The medical portion is a little more agreeable with her, but the financial portion of the POA is when she loses it. She goes out of orbit and starts crying about how she has no money. We all know that’s not really the reason for the POA I’m concerned that at some point we’re going to get too far gone, and I have to go to court to get her placed at an AL or MC In the future. Her signature is less than to be desired. It’s barely legible. So here’s the issue, does anyone have a good way to get her not to be so scared?

Thanks!

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  • M1
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    welcome to the forum. You need to bring the attorney to her and let them talk to her, the good ones know what to say. She’s also less likely to act out in front of a professional.

    I’m always leery about having friends of the family do this. Although you didn’t say whether he would charge you, you get what you pay for,and “free” services may not be what you really want here. Plus, all attorneys are not equal; does he truly have expertise in this area? Do you need to get her qualified for long term Medicaid? It may be worth getting a certified elder law attorney and not using a friend for something this important.

  • H1235
    H1235 Member Posts: 576
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    The lawyer we went to assured mom that she was still able to make her own financial decisions. Which is true, the DPOA does not take any power away from her. I found this part tricky and confusing. At some point she just lost enough cognitive abilities that I didn’t take her to the bank any more or include her in decisions (she was not happy and I’m not sure my brother agreed ). There is also a spring form DPOA (I think that’s what it’s called) that will only take effect if doctors sign off that she is not able to make decisions for herself. These things might give her some comfort. A spring form might be a pain to activate, but it would be better than guardianship. Some have said something like, well it’s just a good thing to be prepared, Im thinking of doing one myself. I think keeping it cool and relaxed(even though you’re not) will help her be more relaxed about it. Is her hesitation that she doesn’t need it because she has no money, so why bother? The better you can understand her hesitation the better you will be at convincing her. Good luck. We were on pins and needles until my mom signed everything. It is so stressful.

  • Quilting brings calm
    Quilting brings calm Member Posts: 2,482
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    edited August 1

    Go ahead and get the medical one done at least. You will get asked for that at lots of medical places. You don’t need an attorney for it.

    We actually printed my Mom’s DPOA off our state's department of aging website. I took the form ( without signatures) and mom to a notary public to sign it. The form may require a non family member witness. I didn’t realize that at the time. The notary called a bank teller in for that. I’ve not had any issues presenting it to anyone. Maybe you can get her to go that route.

    One way to approach it is to tell her it doesn’t prevent her from handling things / it allows you to handle things she prefers not to. Give her an example/ does she really want to spend hours on the phone with her health insurance company or a medical billing office when you could? Because you can’t deal with them unless you have a POA.

    Now, if she is paranoid about her money, you may still not get her to sign it. I could never get my step-dad to sign one. It definitely made handling things for him difficult. I even stayed away from his hospice evaluation because he was so paranoid about me handling things for him. He was just a few days away from not being able to physically sign papers at that point. Thankfully being on hospice allowed him to remain at assisted living until his death.

  • smtissier
    smtissier Member Posts: 2
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    You’re so right, I should probably seek out an elder law attorney. The gentleman I was going to have help us does not specialize and probably wouldn’t be able to convey what both are actually for someone in her state. With all the pros highlighted. Ty

  • Anonymousjpl123
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    @smtissier welcome, and I’m glad you’ve found this place. I have found a ton of good advice here and it has been a real lifeline.

    For your mom, I highly recommend finding a cela or even a good family law attorney that you trust. The person I worked with was very familiar with the process and suggested I treat it like part of normal updates, like health insurance, taxes, etc. I found it helpful to talk to him first. When my mom and I went in, he was able to explain things in a tone (very important) she could accept. I don’t think she 💯 knew what he always talking about, but he was committed to her understanding the process. This helped alleviate any concern that I was manipulating her. To be honest she was more interested in going to lunch afterwards.

    My mom and I began this journey with her thinking she had no money and being very very paranoid, so I know how hard it can be. Your tone and reassurance will go a long way. I am literally the farthest thing from a calm person on the planet, and I manifested for that moment. Good luck let us know how it goes.

  • harshedbuzz
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    Hi and welcome. I am sorry for your reason to be here but glad you found us.

    I would absolutely see an attorney who specializes in this sort of thing. www.nelf.org has a list of credentialed Certified Elder Law Attorneys listed by area. Not only will they generally have a talent for putting your LO at ease and getting you the tools you need to look out for her, they can help around state-specific Medicaid planning. Medicaid is the safety net if she doesn't have comprehensive LTC insurance or considerable assets.

    Sometimes it helps to make the appointment matter-of-factly for your own needs and suggest she do it at the same time.

    HB

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DH = Dear Husband
DW= Dear Wife, Darling Wife
LO = Loved One
ES = Early Stage
EO = Early Onset
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AL = Assisted Living
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