Hoarding
Is hoarding typical of ALZ? When my mother started hoarding I thought it was because she realized what she had lost and didn't want to lose more, even though things have little to do with cognition or mobility. My DH was a child in Budapest on WWII and suffered real malnutrition and deprivation. Now he not only hoards food, but useless household things. maybe useless to us , but worth something to someone else. I try to donate them and he retrieves them from the donation bags. Does anyone have a similar situation?
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Annon welcome to the forum. Your not alone, yes that is a part of this disease. Probably most of us grew up with parents who know what hard times were. I just cleaned out the hundreds of plastic containers my dw saved. And the food thing is very common. I am sure there will be others here who have some similar experiences.0
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Hi Annen and welcome. It's good to have you here. My DH suffers from FTD and hoarding is very common. His specialty at the moment is empty food containers. I find them stashed away in some of the strangest places. And, when he's not looking, I pull them out of his hiding places and throw them away. Since his memory is poor, he doesn't remember stashing them there in the first place. So, he doesn't realize I'm doing this.
Since your DH is retrieving things from the donation bags, you may have to find a creative way to get around this. If it's possible, maybe hide the donation bags from him. Or, maybe you could keep a separate donation bag for the things he would likely retrieve. Just a thought or two.
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I think the hoarding is very common. I had to throw things out when DH was asleep, or outside. Or friends took him somewhere.
If he did not see me take things, he did not miss them. If he did see me, he’d bring it all back, plus some. It was slow going to “sneak” like that, but it did work.
I delayed clearing out his closet for ages. I thought sure he’d notice the new space, and/or miss things and clothes. I was wrong. The shelves and racks were obviously empty (or much less empty), but he never noticed. I was amazed. Others In my support groups have said the same. Just don’t let him see you doing it.
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I suspected I'd have to sneak around to help clean up this place, my goodness it's getting where I can barely walk around. My DH has 3 file cabinets full of stuff, which he's decided to empty and pile everywhere. At one point he had decided to try to organize but he never finished and now it's left to me to figure out. Thank you for this post, so helpful! Not that I have time to add this task but maybe if I tackle a small amount a few times a week I can get some breathing room back.0
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DW was a hoarder from Childhood, so was her father
Her mother was a very famous biochemist. She died young in 1983 When DWs father died in 2006 we found hundreds of bottles of chemicals She had created stored in his garage and basement, land carefully labeled in her fine hand . We took them very carefully to the county hazardous waste disposal. The man there had a degree in chemistry and was very excited to be handling her materials. he carefully separated them into those that could be sold for recycling and those at different levels of hazard. We made his day
Dw saved computers After DW was diagnosed I personally junked 37 of her computers, while she cried like Niobe over her children. We kept 5 she had built and 7 we were using.
(Niobe, in Greek mythology, the daughter of Tantalus (king of Sipylus in Lydia) and the wife of King Amphion of Thebes. She was the prototype of the bereaved mother, weeping for the loss of her children)
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I understand your frustration and concern regarding your husband's hoarding behavior. It's true that hoarding can be a common symptom of Alzheimer's disease and other forms of dementia, as individuals may cling to possessions as a way to maintain a sense of control and familiarity in an increasingly confusing world.In your husband's case, it's possible that his hoarding behavior is also influenced by his experiences during WWII and childhood in Budapest. The trauma of deprivation and malnutrition may have left a lasting impact on his attachment to food and household items, even if they seem useless to you.
Rather than focusing on getting rid of these items immediately, it might be more helpful to try to understand the underlying reasons behind his hoarding behavior.
As for the difficulty in donating items, it's essential to be patient and understanding when dealing with a loved one who is hoarding.
Pressuring or forcing your husband to part with his possessions may only lead to frustration and resistance on both sides.
Here are some strategies that have worked for other caregivers in similar situations:
Designate a specific storage area for hoarded items, making it easier to keep the rest of the house clutter-free.
Encourage your husband to donate items gradually, one at a time, rather than insisting on donating large quantities at once.
Acknowledge and validate his feelings about the items he's hoarding, while also gently expressing your concerns about safety and living space.
Focus on creating a safe and comfortable living environment that minimizes clutter and tripping hazards while still accommodating your husband's attachment to certain possessions.
Remember, it's essential to prioritize your own well-being as you care for your husband. Seek support from other caregivers, family members, or professional resources when needed, and don't hesitate to lean on this community for advice and understanding.
Take care, and know that you're not alone in navigating this challenging aspect of caregiving.
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Annen, My DH is a hoarder too…has been for most of his life, like his mother, but it is worse now…he hoards food, plastic bottles, containers of all sorts, plastic bags from the grocery store, paper towels from the gas station, toilet paper, all paper products, pieces of wood, metal, broken items from the neighbors trash, etc…mostly because he is sure that the world economy is going to collapse at any moment and we'll have to barter for tomatoes, etc…on and on. My house is absolutely horrifying, but I have learned to just ignore it. We are never apart and he follows me closely all day so have to hide garbage bags of bottles, etc in my art studio and whenever I have a chance I throw them out. If I try to donate to goodwill, etc, he will empty the box out before I can take it. I used to be able to hide it in my car, but can't leave without him now so that doesn't work anymore. Oh well…not the worst problem that I have to deal with! I feel your pain….
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These sound prudent and useful. It doesn't sound like a problem. Being prepared and having extra food and items during this time of inflation is not a bad idea.
Not like our father's stupid toy collections. He has boxes of collectables. Comic books, videogames, VHS movies. Everything you would find in an 80's and 90's videogame store. You could roll out the garage door and BAM! Retro store. Complete garbage. Nobody reads comics anymore. Marvel and DC are gay and woke now. Videogames are digital. You download them now. Movies are streaming.
Slowly we have been taking this junk and giving it away on Craigslist or burning it. Mostly burning it in the back since you have a culture of "collectors". Yeah! They are the worst. They actually want me to take video games apart to photo them and "prove they are real". It's way easier to trash this crap.
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Ossom…I agree, food is useful to have on hand…but 250 cans of tuna fish, 200 cans of tomatoes, etc, etc?…our house is a storage building! I didn't mention the other items that he hoards…clothes from high school, old shoes, everything. I feel your pain about trying to sell things on craigslist and 'collectors' wanting you to take things apart and photograph them, etc…and then offer you nothing…burning is quick and more satisfying!
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This definitely paints more of a picture and sounds like our situation with our father. We too refer to it as "living in a strange building".
When I read this response from you I actually screenshoted it to share with my brother in arms. We are a team of two sleeping in shifts caring for our father.
This is what I said with the image....
"I had a response on the forums that should warm your heart and bring kinship to our plight."
The best Christmas present comment of understanding.
Thankyou Bailey's Mom ❤️
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❤️ to you too & glad my comment brought you some comfort. Good for you and your 'Brother in Arms' for taking such good care of your father….
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