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Guardianship case

I just want to ask if anyone had any experiences with winning a guardianship case. My DH with mild vascular dementia got served on Friday with a petition case of guardianship from daughter.
I have durable POA for financial/property and POA for health care. Our court appearance is scheduled on February 4th. Any advice will be highly appreciated.


We had a nice Christmas celebration and this is totally unexpected. DH is very mad as expected and wants us to relocate somewhere where the daughter and her family can’t reach us. DH only had one child.

We’re meeting with our lawyers tomorrow.

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  • Jgirl57
    Jgirl57 Member Posts: 542
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    I have no advice but offering (((hugs.))) It is good you are seeing your own attorneys. Sorry you are going through this

  • Worriedwife123
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    Thank you for replying to my post and for the hug.

  • SDianeL
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    found this online. Sorry you are going through this. Since it’s established by the court, a guardianship may supersede the authority granted by a power of attorney. However, this typically happens if the court determines the principal can’t make informed decisions themselves or if the agent is misusing power of attorney to serve personal interests. 

  • IndiaRagan
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    the court will appoint your DH his own attorney to defend him. Then 3 doctors will come out separately to assess his ability to make decisions for himself. The court does not like to take away rights, and he’s married to you, so I would bet that the daughter will not be successful at applying for guardianship because you’ll have the opportunity in a second hearing to contest her petition for guardianship due to the fact that he can make decisions and he has you if you are POA/DPOA and Healthcare Proxy.

  • Worriedwife123
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    Thank you very much, SDianel. It’s causing so much stress to us right now. My DH wants us to transfer to other places so that they cannot reach us.

  • Worriedwife123
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    Thank you IndiaRagan. I’m afraid he will not do good if 3 doctors will test him. He gets nervous/anxious when asked repeatedly or in succession.

    Yes, I am his DPOA for financial and medical. This started the tension between us because she wants it back.

  • IndiaRagan
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    the court will appoint him an attorney who will be advocating for what’s best for him and if you’re his wife, it will seem natural for you to retain decisions for him. If he can say where he is, who the president is, what medicine he takes, what year it is …. the doctors probably won’t be recommending that he have a guardian at all… and if they did… a second hearing would address who should be appointed… so you would contest her petition to b e guardian and state why- and it seems that you’d state because you make decisions for him and show your proof. Your attorney would be guiding you.

  • Carl46
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    edited January 13

    I don't know where you live, but Missouri courts are reluctant to take away an adult's civil rights even if he has severe mental limitations. If your husband is doing well in his current situation, a Missouri court would not award guardianship. Rather, they would deny his daughter's petition and order her to pay your attorney fees. My wife and one of her sisters tried to obtain guardianship of their other sister several years ago, and that was the result.

  • cdgbdr
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    I'm so sorry this is happening. As others have replied, the courts are reluctant to remove all rights from an individual. If you are managing well, I would think things can be left as is, or you could be the guardian. I wonder if she has any idea what she is asking for. Glad you have consulted your own attorney.

  • harshedbuzz
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    I am sorry you are dealing with this ugliness.

    In your shoes, I would get legal advice from an elder law specialist with experience in such things.

    Do you have any sense of why she wants to do this? Is she typically an emotionally driven decision-maker? Does she have expertise or access to services that she might make her feel she's the better choice? You mention she held the POA previously; perhaps she is more comfortable calling the shots. You describe DH as having mild VD and yet you're very concerned about him being examined by 3 doctors. (BTW, that's not been my experience except in the case of a springing POA that requires the signature of 3 physicians. If the DD sees him as more impaired than you do and is concerned you aren't as proactive about his safety as she is she may want control. Mom and I battled over this— let's say she had very loving eyes— she left him home alone in the house further into the disease progression than was safe.

    Assuming yours is a marriage of reasonably long standing, that you have the capacity to provide care, and that your DH is not abused or neglected in your care I don't think she'll stand much of a chance. Typically, a spouse "outranks" an adult child, although there have been rare incidences where a group of siblings went after a stepparent with money or retaliation at the root.

    I have an aunt and friend who obtained guardianship in 3 different states. In both ME and PA, the PWD was subjected to a court ordered neuropsych evaluation given over 2 days. In ME, the long-term PCP gave an opinion that the PWD needed the protection of guardianship. In ME and MA, the petition was not contested. In PA it was contested by the PWD who had enough cognitive reserve to hire his own attorney beyond a guardian ad litem assigned by the court. He did not prevail against is sons on the basis of the test results and evidence of the condition of the cottage where he lived on the son's property.

    Good luck.
    HB

  • M5M
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    it Is not likely the exact event of “Three doctors will come out to test him” is the way it will happen …..more likely, he will be directed by the court to see a qualified specialist (neurologist perhaps) who is experienced in testing for dementia, and an appointment could take several weeks.That doctor will write his opinion and send to the court. I wouldn’t try to rehearse DH for the evaluation, he likely won’t remember what you suggest and will increase his anxiety.

    I would shield DH from the day-to-day stuff about all this, there is no need to intensify the situation for him. This forum will be your ally of support. In addition, try to find a friend for you…perhaps at your local Alz Association, if one is nearby…a counselor Or social worker where you can vent and talk . Also, talk with your attorney and hopefully the attorney who should be appointed for DH., so you understand the options with both. Best wishes.

Commonly Used Abbreviations


DH = Dear Husband
DW= Dear Wife, Darling Wife
LO = Loved One
ES = Early Stage
EO = Early Onset
FTD = Frontotemporal Dementia
VD = Vascular Dementia
MC = Memory Care
AL = Assisted Living
POA = Power of Attorney
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