And now cancer along with everything else




We have just been told that DH has renal cell carcinoma. We have a visit with a specialist in a few weeks. I really just want to know what the prognosis is for his cancer. He has many other health issues in addition to Alzheimer's, so I do not expect there to be a cancer treatment that would be warranted. I want him to be comfortable and enjoy the quality of life that he has left. It will be up to me to make the decision as to how to proceed.
At the same time, I feel guilty for thinking that maybe the cancer is a better way for his life to end instead of enduring the final stages of Alzheimer's. And lonely because DH was my rock for talking over things that troubled me, but that's not an option any longer. He said the other day that he trusts me to make the best decisions for him - that's reassuring.
I do have folks to talk with - we started palliative care and we subscribe to a dementia support program that provides me with a care coordinator. But this is hard!!! He's already shown a noticeable decline since Christmas and has had more difficulty with balance, so I was already concerned about that. If he becomes unable to walk, I won't be able to care for him. And the balance issues can't be directly attributed to his Alzheimer's since he has lymphedema in both legs, left foot drop, diabetic neuropathy in his feet, and possibly another spinal stenosis. He's starting some PT to hopefully regain some strength in his legs - but he's not always cooperative in doing the simple exercises for me (he's cooperative with the therapist).
Sorry for rambling… I'm sad and needed to vent to folks who understand. It's another wave of anticipatory grief that's rearing its ugly head. He's still asleep as I write this and I don't want him to see my sadness.
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(((hugs))) aconite, Sadness describes the Alzheimer’s caregiving experience well. There are moments of joy and laughter but the true underlying emotion is full of sadness. I’m so sorry you are going through this and I respect your thought that maybe it would be better if your DH passed from cancer sooner than Alzheimer’s later. I pray this for my DH. None of us wants to go the full length journey of Alzheimer’s. Peace to you.❤️🙏
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Please don’t feel guilty for thinking that an ‘off ramp’ ( as it’s known here) would be preferable to a lingering dementia death. I know you are correct in your thoughts that he won’t be able to handle the treatments. I have a good friend who had this and she had surgery and is still taking chemo every three weeks almost two years later.
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My wife has Alzheimer's. Her father had it, so we have experience this journey. My wife does not want to go to the end and bad stages of ALZ. Unfortunately we just have to deal with what awaits us. All that being said, if my wife got cancer at this point, we most likely would do nothing. Everyone has to make their own choices, but we would take the off ramp.
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There's no easy road. Hoping that DH dies earlier from cancer or hanging on year after year falling headlong down the rabbit hole of dementia until he reaches the bottom? Horrible choices we face! I hope you find some solace and please don't feel guilty about anything. Easier said than done, I know, but all we can do is hope / pray that the end is peaceful. That's all we can really hope for.
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It’s overwhelming, isn’t it? I do understand what you are going through and even though you know what the best choice to make is, it still eats away at you. I don’t want to make those choices. I want to discuss them with my husband, but I can’t. Then there’s the guilt of thinking an earlier death from something else will be better than watching the long decline of Alzheimer’s. Part of that is selfishness of not wanting to lose him. Silly thought. I already have lost the best part of him. A big hug to you.
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I'm sorry that you have to undergo this double whammy. You are having to make the decision that I dread making…probably many of us here. When DH was first diagnosed, we had a discussion on what he wanted if faced with life saving treatment. But, it is one thing to decide that when it is just a "what if" and quite another to be the one who decides when it hits you in the face. Will the kids resent me if I allow their father to die sooner vs. later? I hope that I will be able to be strong enough to say pallative care only if it comes to that. May God give you the strength to bear this.
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This is something I’ve thought about also, and it’s hard not to feel guilty. But it’s one more of the decisions we’re required to make mostly on our own. Some are easy, but many are very hard and can cause a great deal of stress. Hoping you have the strength to make the right decision for your DH and for you, and peace to make it through once the decision is made.
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I know we all look at this differently but to me it is a no-brainer. I would much rather die of cancer than experience stage 6 & 7 and die of aspiration pneumonia or urosepsis.
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I agree. I watched my father die of cancer and my mother die of VD and AD, and I would choose the cancer. Or a pistol.
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Now in Stage 5, if my DW where to be diagnosed with cancer, I would let that run its course. Such a hard decision, but like others, I watched her father die an extended, painful death from dementia. I don't want that for her.
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This is such a horrible disease with so many difficult choices to make on our own. Noone can tell you the right choice for you and your husband but we can share our situation and what we would do for our situation. My husband has VD from strokes he's had. He chose to have Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm Repair 3 yrs ago when he was still diagnosed MCI. A year ago he suffered his 3rd stroke and neurologists recommended he have the plaque removed from his carotid artery, the likely cause of his strokes. Drs said it was his best chance st not having another stroke. He had the surgery but VD is worse. I now know that was probably not the best choice. He understood about the surgery and wanted it. Post stroke, I was afraid of losing him or another stroke sending him to a facility for the rest of his life. Fast forward 1 yr. I will not advocate or consent to any more surgeries or heroic life saving measures. He was able to articulate that to me and family before the last surgery in case the surgery went badly. I want him to be as comfortable and pain free as possible for as long as possible but watching him progress along the dementia journey, I now regret encouraging the previous 2 surgeries. Hoping and praying for an exit ramp before the final stage of dementia. Do what you feel is right in your heart and what you would want him to do for you if roles were reversed and have no regrets. There is no judgment from those of us dealing with our loved ones. Sending you a big hug and praying you find peace with your decision
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Our PWD has been in hospice, bedridden, for about 9 months. He is close to the end now. The last 9 months have been an emotional roller coaster nightmare for my mom that I wouldn’t wish on anyone. The rest of us have hoped for a sudden end that never came (heart attack, etc). If it were me, I wouldn’t do any evaluation beyond maybe basic imaging and bloodwork. I would be prepared to at least ask the doctors for a very honest explanation of what to expect. (This can be difficult to get from some specialists who are just thinking of fixing a problem & not putting it into the larger context of your loved one’s situation). If you have a PCP or palliative care doctor you trust, get their big picture opinion and then use your own beliefs and values to decide. Sending you hugs and best wishes.
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I'm so sorry that this is happening to you and your husband. I think about how much treatment I will allow for DH going forward all the time. It's really hard. It all sucks. The choices feel impossible. I know you will do what is best.
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I’m so sorry about the cancer diagnosis. Someone posted on this forum that if you must make difficult decisions for your LO to “play it all the way out”. Little did I know that I would soon need that advice. My DH passed last August due to aspiration pneumonia. Before that he had a severe fast decline and wasn’t swallowing most of the time. The MC facility asked me if I wanted an XRay to confirm pneumonia. At first I said of course. The head nurse said if they found anything that they must transport him to the hospital. Then I remember the post. I asked the nurse questions and based on her answers I made the extremely difficult decision to not transport him and asked them to call Hospice. I did feel guilty but this group helped me realize it was the right decision for my husband. Had he gone to the hospital for a week to ten days and returned to the facility he would have aspirated again. My sister also has dementia and breast cancer. The oncologist put her on medication to slow the growth but it stopped working and they recently changed it. I hope when the time comes that her husband and children will not approve other treatments. Without the help and support on this forum I doubt I would have had the strength to make the decision. I do know what my husband would say. He would not want to live that way. Praying for your strength and comfort in the coming days. 🙏💜
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Our daughter (43) plaintively wailed to me after her father was diagnosed with dementia “why couldn't it be cancer, not dementia”. I can hear that everything you do is done with love and care, be strong do not feel any guilt. Your journey is in my thoughts I pray its as gentle as possible.
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