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The Mental Switch

CindyBum
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Hey all,

Many of you have talked about how at a certain point, you made a mental switch from loving spouse to loving caregiver…or something along those lines. I'm curious about how you've done that. My DW is getting more paranoid and complains about how "I'm not taking care of her needs", which means sitting next to her 24/7 and driving her all around the state of CA to visit friends and family. Trips with her are terrible these days and I've discovered how difficult it is to arrange calendars with others who have busy lives.

The gist for me with this is…I'm still getting my feelings hurt with these delusions from her and I don't like that for myself or for my spouse. She still has a remarkable EQ and knows when I'm hurt immediately. She also senses when I've pulled away, trying to protect myself.

I am imagining this is a shift that just happens at some point, but if there where tips or tricks to help that switch along, I would really appreciate it.

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  • midge333
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    @CindyBum : I wish I had some solid tips for you but I do not. What you are dealing with is really hard and it is very hard not to take things personally. I would try to tell myself it was the disease and not my DW. I can't say it helped that much. After several months in memory care, it is getting better because I can now walk away.

  • Palmetto Peg
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    The shift happened over time for me. My DH became very paranoid and accusatory - usually that I was unfaithful and had boyfriends. I was so hurt at first, even though I knew it was the disease. He is now in memory care, and that does make it easier. I visit for short periods of time each day, and he doesn't know if I am there for an hour or three hours. I couldn't walk away when he was with me because he would just follow me, ranting on about what a bad person I was. Medication changes have helped, and now I just quietly deny it, and if he keeps on the subject I leave. You may need to consider medication because she is likely very agitated and unsure. Good luck - and when you shift into caregiver mode it is sad, but definitely better for you.

  • CampCarol
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    I don't have advice for you because I'm in the same position. DH still has the ability to make me cry at the drop of a hat. He's always had a "way" with words, good/uplifting or bad/hurtful. Whether or not he knows it, it's mostly hurtful now, and he's continuing to push that button. Maybe I'm still in denial about the whole situation; I don't want to disassociate myself from being his loving wife. But I know for self-preservation, it needs to happen and as quickly as possible. I'm hopeful meds will help too. You're not alone!

  • Russinator
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    ((HUGS))

  • Quilting brings calm
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    edited April 21

    I wasn’t in your position since it was my parents and not my spouse… but here’s how it happened for me:

    With my step-dad ( of 54+ years then) it was due to his behavior when my mom was so ill with what turned out to be a UTI that the doctors misdiagnosed. He made life very difficult for me when he temporarily abandoned her in the middle of an emergency move and he moved their money from an account where I could help them to one in only his name. Then when he showed up he didn’t want to pay for their bills out of that new account. So we were emotionally done after that even though I was his primary caregiver ( other than the AL). He was diagnosed with dementia about 3 years later.

    With mom, it was when she just made it so emotionally draining for me to deal with her- 10-15 calls a day, some 3 minutes apart. If I couldn’t answer, she’d start crying on the voice mails. There was no recognition that I had a life other than being her 24/7 lifeline. Plus there was no real conversation other than about her. Eventually they become someone so unlike the person you know that they aren’t that person to your brain anymore. Just someone you know needs taken care of and you are doing it. Then you decide that you need a life and you start taking small trips because you have to.

  • Jgirl57
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    For me , it was over a period of time . I eventually learned what to respond to and what to ignore . An increase in sertraline helped and a decrease in his skills as the disease progresses . Now I mostly just ignore or nod when he goes on and on about us going on a trip . My feelings do get hurt, but not as often . Paranoid behavior may require tweaking psych meds. (((Hugs)))

  • l7pla1w2
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    My mentality also shifted over time. I realized eventually that I had compartmentalized my feelings and set them aside so I could focus on caring for DW. Once I realized that questions like, "I haven't seen you in months. Where have you been?" were the disease talking, I was no longer offended or angry, just profoundly sad. It can be very weird to sit at the kitchen table, just a foot or two away, and have her say, "I haven't seen [my name] in ages. I wonder where he is. He left without saying a word, and that makes me sad." At least part of the time she lost the association between corporeal me and my name, yet she expressed gratitude that I was here and said, "I don't know what I'd do without you." I thought to myself, "I don't know what you'd do without me, either."

    Tangent: I moved DW to memory care a week ago. I haven't yet visited, and the staff tell me she's asking for me. I worry that when I do visit, she'll ask when she can go home, and I'll need to have an answer.

  • upstateAnn
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    it takes time. The change occurs very gradually. I had to acknowledge that the DH I had was no more. Only I could treat my new DH with kindness because my expectations were no more.

  • Arrowhead
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    Somehow, I managed to balance being both at the same time. I'm glad that I was because she's now in memory care, so the caregiver part is not nearly so large. It's not completely gone because I still need to fill in some gaps at times. Still, I put most of that part behind me, which leaves more for the loving spouse I still am.

  •  Bridge4
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    I found it nearly impossible to separate the roles of caregiver and spouse with my DW, even after voracious reading on the subject for years looking for clues to save my sanity. Then, about four months ago two things happened simultaneously: I started to see a counselor with serious expertise in dementia; and I was able to arrange an outside caregiver for 2-3 afternoons a week. The combination of venting to the counselor with great suggestions coming back to me, AND the regular breaks from 24x7 proximity to an angry master-manipulator gave me a huge breakthrough. You can lose yourself buried so deep in the PWD’s world all the time without coming up for air to remind yourself what’s normal. Now, the clarity is so sharp it’s like those extreme before and after photos. So when I’m in my DW’s world now it can be brutal and unrelenting, but I can be patient and look forward to my next break. One caution for those considering vacations with your PWD- we just got back from a trip to see Grands for Easter and while seeing the kids was great, the feeling of claustrophobia and being trapped with my confused and agitated DW reminded me how difficult it is to live with the blurred roles of CG and spouse as the disease advances. Glad I didn’t fly all the way to Europe to get that lesson!

  • SDianeL
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    edited April 22

    this forum helped me so much. I was struggling caring for my DH and someone posted the sentence that said “You can’t reason with someone whose reasoner is broken” it was like a lightbulb turned on. I stopped trying to correct him and stopped arguing. I stopped telling him the truth and as this forum recommended, I started fibbing to him. I stopped feeling hurt by things he said. I saw him as my patient and me his nurse. I stopped thinking of him as my spouse, it did take lots of self talk and practice for a few weeks because I’m human. I just kept repeating the “reasoner is broken” phrase when I fell back into my old habits. Yes I was sad. I grieved for the loss. The loss of “us” … 💜

  • SDianeL
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    edited April 22

    l7pla1w2: Just say she can come home when the doctor says so. Then change the subject or get her a treat. Don’t say goodbye when you leave. Just slip out and let the nurse know you’re leaving so they can also help distract her if necessary.

  • harshedbuzz
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    @CindyBum

    Medication might be useful to help relieve some of the anxiety that your wife feels which might help her settle a bit which might offer you some breathing space.

    Since a change in routine and location tends to impact PWD, I would cease the road tips asap. I suspect a lot of your difficulty in planning is actually a function of friends and family pulling away from a PWD/marriage impacted by dementia. Sadly, this is almost universal. Tell her you can't make it work right now. Rinse and repeat.

    I don't know that there is a switch one can flip— some people seem to gravitate to this mindset while others don't. I don't think all people are wired in such a way that they see the essence of their LO until the very end while others feel Elvis has left the building well before that. IME, the quality of care provided doesn't seem dependent on whether you can relate to the PWD as your spouse or parent anymore.

    HB

  • Maru
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    Like SDaniel, the comparison to ALZ brain being like a light bulb going out helped me change my mindset. Once I really understood that, I stopped arguing with DH about just about everything. The sad result is that we can no longer have conversations of any depth. Not only does he have memory problems but it appears that he is losing his reasoning abilities. Trying to convince him that something he read on Facebook isn't necessarily really true is just a waste of my breath and would end up making him feel inadequate, stupid or angry. What's the point? He is a good man and has been a good husband to me. He deserves all to keep his dignity and feelings of self-worth. I just pray that i can give him that as he progresses into the later stages. My desire to help him keep his dignity was part of helping me make the switch to a caretaker mode.

  • CindyBum
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    Thank you all…this is super helpful. Therapy time!

  • l7pla1w2
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    Yes, I've seen that advice before. DW is self-aware enough to ask, "What doctor?" "What am I being treated for?" And hardest, "Why didn't the doctor tell me, rather than you?" She's very sensitive to slights to her personhood. I did not place her in MC by telling her the doctor said she needed to go.

  • CindyBum
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    I think I got a nice little moment of a beginning of the switch. I am cracking up.

    I decided I could get DW to her family for a little visit. It will not be fun for me, but she will enjoy them, so what the heck. Once more into the travel breach. It works for about 3 weeks from now. When I told her, she said she's really disappointed that it's not tonight because she hasn't seen them in a long time. I really did her wrong and we need to leave now.

    I mean, what else can I do but laugh about that?

  • ronda b
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    Lol and hugs. She sounds like my Dh,I never do anything quiet right.

  • Bacciammo
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    So very hard. My husband seemed about 17 yrs old last year mentally. Now he seems 12. The real shift happened this year. I had to privately talk to his doc to get him on anxiety drugs. I was sure he was going to get physical with myself or a family member. You have my sympathy. It is so hard on the caregiver. I read scripture daily and it helps me stay patient and calm. My feelings still get hurt, but I keep in mind that he is like a child emotionally. Hang in there. There are good and bad days. Thank the Lord some days are uneventful

  • LindaLouise
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    For me, the mental switch was a gut punch at the neurologist office. I had been in the role of caregiver for several years for most things - yard work, finances, meal prep, driving - but like a frog in boiling water, failed to recognize that was what I had become. At this appointment, the nurse referred to me as his caregiver and it suddenly hit me for the first time - seems crazy, but I hadn't thought of myself as anything other than wife until that point. I was totally stunned at this new term - but realized it was so true. It took me weeks to get over the shock. Still seems odd to me that I didn't see it for so long - but ultimately it took the resentment of doing everything away, made his comments easier to bear and helped me to understand the life I was living.

  • harshedbuzz
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    The term caregiver blew me out of my shoes as well.

    I shared this link a few weeks back because it spoke to me.

    To find support as a caregiver, recognize how the role changes you : NPR

    HB

  • Carl46
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    It wasn't a switch for me, or anything I consciously thought of. I just gradually came to realize we aren't peers anymore. It went from knowing she was not going to bring me my extra car keys if I locked mine in the car, to knowing there was not going to be any dinner unless I provided it, to knowing she will pee on the floor if I don't show her the way to the bathroom in her own house. Somewhere along that road, I thought less and less of her as a woman and started thinking more and more of her as one of the people I take care of.

    In the course of that progression, I gradually stopped caring much about any perceived inadequacies in the quality of care I provide. She isn't qualified to judge my work. Remembering that makes it easier to not be hurt by her complaints. If you told a child school is out in three weeks and the child said she wanted it to be out NOW, would you be hurt?

    That doesn't mean we don't love them. It is just that every household needs at least one adult, and we drew the short straw.

    P.S. It is not a bad idea to wait until near the day of the trip to tell her about it. It can save you three weeks of "Are we there yet?"

  • baytown101
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    Thank you for saying that. It's like seeing my DH die right in front of my eyes. We have been married almost 54 years so it has been hard. I have written your last statement down and will read it daily.

Commonly Used Abbreviations


DH = Dear Husband
DW= Dear Wife, Darling Wife
LO = Loved One
ES = Early Stage
EO = Early Onset
FTD = Frontotemporal Dementia
VD = Vascular Dementia
MC = Memory Care
AL = Assisted Living
POA = Power of Attorney
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