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My friend has an at home caregiver. She has not driven her car in four months. The aide or I take care of the driving. She had a dead battery which we fixed. Now she wants to drive it, just around the corner. I suggested I drive. She did not want that. She wants to drive with me..I do not want to be in the car with her. Sometimes she is coherent enough to have a rational discussion. Should I be honest? Saying it is dangerous for her to drive. She doesn't agree. Saying I have memory loss, I am not senile.

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  • JJ401
    JJ401 Member Posts: 339
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    There is no rational discussion that she will remember. A person who sometimes is coherent should not be driving.

    You fixed the battery. Unfix something else and do not fix it.

    The person who holds the POAs needs to make the car disappear.

  • M1
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    JJ is exactly right. Too bad you spent money on the battery.

  • towhee
    towhee Member Posts: 484
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    Should you tell her that she has memory loss and is therefore not safe to drive? No, that would absolutely not be good. You could say "I know you are a good driver, but we all get older and our reaction times are not as good as they used to be, and all the teenagers are driving crazy because school is out"- or say she has poor vision, or that it has been a while since she drove and you need the doctors OK first, etc. You, as a friend, absolutely do not want the responsibility of letting her drive. Do contact the POA.

  • Iris L.
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    PWDs (persons with dementia) have anosognosia--they are unaware of having dementia and that they have declined in abilities. If you confront them with reality, they will resist and become upset. So don't do this. Use the work-arounds to get things done, as suggested above.

  • Denise1847
    Denise1847 Member Posts: 881
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    Perhaps you could disable something on the car and then tell her it needs to be towed to a mechanic to get it fixed. Once it is out of sight, maybe she would not focus on it. You don't want to be driving with her.

  • Ricsgirl
    Ricsgirl Member Posts: 3
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    My HWD hasn’t driven in about 4 years. We still have his car, and I drive it once a week to keep it running. He’s not really happy about not driving (he thinks he’s fine), but he does recognize that he gets confused and the family all delivers the same message that we don’t want him to hurt himself or anyone else. At some point I’ll get rid of his car, but for now it seems to give him some sort of security to have it sitting in the garage.

  • Bob in LW
    Bob in LW Member Posts: 91
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    Anyone who has been diagnosed with dementia should not be driving under any circumstances. If they cause an accident, the person with POA could be held personally liable because they did not take steps to keep the person with dementia from driving.

  • Jill Florence
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    Thank you so much for all of your comments. Very helpful.

  • montebuddy12
    montebuddy12 Member Posts: 3
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    We have tried this with my MIL and she remembers us telling her that her car is in the garage (of course it's not, it was taken away more than 5 yrs ago). She keeps asking when it will be drivable. We have tried telling her she isn't allowed to drive, that didn't go well at all. She wants to drive home and help her parents.

  • smn4646
    smn4646 Member Posts: 3
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    From the time my DW was diagnosed a little over 5 years ago her memory doctors told me I should not let her drive any more. But if I wanted to continue to let her drive I should ride with her weekly to make sure she was still capable which at the time she was. At that time she was only driving to the local bowling alley or grocery store. A few years ago as she started to decline more rapidly I knew driving was no longer an option for her so I hid her keys. The car remained in the garage and although she wasn't driving it she still thought she was. About 6 months later I sold the car which was a huge issue with her. She acted out about it for several weeks getting upset, crying and being angry with me. She would bring it up at night out of the blue and get upset sometimes crying and running off to the bedroom and slamming the door. It was a very though time for the first month. Then slowly but surely she eventually stopped bringing it up or would just ask if she was ever getting it back but not get upset. During the first few days while she was constantly upset I spoke with her doctor who increased her anxiety and depression meds and that did help some. It was a very hard but necessary thing to do. As her caregiver it is on me to keep her and others safe. Plus I would imagine that if a person who has been diagnosed with AIZ gets in an accident I will be sued and more than likely the insurance company will refuse the claim! In any case I tried using her diagnosis of early stages of glaucoma as the reason she is uninsurable and thus cannot drive. As someone else mentioned people with middle stages of ALZ do not know or believe there is anything wrong with them. So using their memory as the reason won't fly with them. Any way now a year and a half since she last drove the subject hardly ever comes up any more. If it does I just change the subject and she forgets she asked. My advice even though it is tough for us as care givers, do the hard thing now before something happens you can't fix. As others have said unfortunately there is no manual on how to handle the things that come at us day to day. We just do the best we can to take care of our loved one and keep them safe. Best of luck to all of us.

  • terei
    terei Member Posts: 670
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    It would be much simpler to ‘disappear’ the car or permanently disable it before trying to ‘explain’ to the PWD. One of my friends took the car away + told his mother it had been stolen + he was working with the police about it…problem solved

Commonly Used Abbreviations


DH = Dear Husband
DW= Dear Wife, Darling Wife
LO = Loved One
ES = Early Stage
EO = Early Onset
FTD = Frontotemporal Dementia
VD = Vascular Dementia
MC = Memory Care
AL = Assisted Living
POA = Power of Attorney
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