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Mom from IL to AL to MC in one month

pamu
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I’m so thankful to have found this forum. Our family has been going through a rough patch with Mom and I find myself coming here often looking for comfort so thank you all.

Back story (warning…it’s long) : My mom (87YO) has suffered from mental illness her whole life. She has been hospitalized at least 5 times in her adult life for major depressive disorder and bipolar disorder. Her last hospitalization for that was 20 years ago but my childhood was affected in a big way (I’m 54). With that said my mother has seen psychiatrists and geriatric psychiatrists on and off throughout her life and taking meds on and off. Mom’s dementia symptoms were recognized 7 years ago after a medical emergency. She was initially diagnosed with Alzheimer’s but now they think she may have mixed dementia (on top of her major depression). She had lived by herself in a low income elderly apartment building and was able to qualify for Medicaid. She had an aide come in twice weekly to help her during the day when my sister and I couldn’t. It was a good arrangement and appropriate at that time. In July of this year mom had a fall while at home alone at night. She was able to call me but was in really rough shape when I arrived. I called an ambulance and she was brought to the ER She broke her nose and suffered a concussion. The ER kept her under observation status for 2.5 days and released her because they “had no beds”. I fought the doctor, social worker and hospital administrator to keep her but they refused. They claimed that she would just need rest and there would be visiting nurses scheduled daily to check on her. We had a rough month and noticed mom’s cognitive decline (behaviors more than memory) even as her body grew stronger. Her PCP and neurologist were of no help which was really eye opening. My sister and I continued to keep close tabs on her by going in the evenings to ensure she ate and took her meds and bathed (after having an aide there with her during the day) . It seemed to work for a time but we knew we couldn’t keep up with it long term. My sister is 65 and works two jobs and I work FT and have a husband (that commutes) and two active kids. We had been on the lookout for AL for a long time and found a lovely group home that we visited together and accepted Medicaid LTC vouchers. Mom liked it and agreed to move there within three weeks. Mom moved in and was so happy. It seemed like the perfect fit. Fast forward 6 days and we received alarming reports that mom was telling everyone she was getting picked up to move out, calling the staff names, going into other resident rooms to snoop and throwing her clothes away. She would call me everyday and ask if I was on vacation. We knew there would be an adjustment period but she really wanted to live there intially so we wanted to try to make it work. They had an in house psych NP that visited weekly and put mom on a low dose of Trazadone to help her sleep. Fast forward 5 more days and mom had wandered from the house 3 times in one day and the staff couldn’t stop her. She told us that she heard us calling her so she went to find us. It’s a rural area so the police were called on the last elopement because she couldn’t be found (she went to a house down the street). We were told to come and get her because the staff can’t keep chasing her. The AL had residents with dementia, but because of the wandering, that was a big no-no (understandable). They said once she is stabilized with some medication she could return. My sister and I went immediately and called an ambulance with the intent to see if we could get her admitted to Geri Psych while she was in crisis mode. She was brought to the ER. (Different ER than after her fall). The hospital geriatric psychiatrist held her in the ER in a private room for two nights and observed her. He said because of her mild nature, she did not really qualify for admission for an psych eval because she was not violent, and he recognized that what she needed was to be in long term care. Because she was already Medicaid qualified the social worker at the hospital was able to find her a bed locally at a lock down memory care facility. Mom has been there for just under a month and hates every minute of it. She has her moments of clarity throughout the day, but continues to have delusions. She believes that she has cancer in her brain, she doesn’t. She thinks my 14-year-old daughter is a nurse there. She said she wants to have all of her teeth pulled out and that they don’t give her medication. Initially she tried to escape multiple times a day. She once put on one of the nurse’s jackets and bag and headed to wait by the elevator. The memory care facility is quite dated and frumpy, but clean. So far the staff has been great. Every nurse or LNA I’ve encountered can tell me things about her off the bat without even looking at their notes and seem to really pay attention. One of the nurses even texts me updates four or five days a week and I check in with them every visit. My mom has always been a neat freak and a bit of a snob. She thinks the place is a dump, but we feel she is getting decent care and there aren’t many lockdown memory care facilities that accept Medicaid in our area. Our hope is that once she is more settled, not so angry, and not exit seeking that she can move into the regular population in the nursing home upstairs which is much more lively. I’ve been visiting twice a week and my sister has been visiting twice a week as well. Our plan initially was to make sure she had a visitor every day, but mom is so miserable that our visits are very short because she gets extremely upset. Every time she sees me, she says, “when am I leaving” about 20 times and “I thought you out of all people would help me.” Which is a gut punch because I’ve been “spinning my wheels” for her for a very long time. I’ve made lifelong choices based on living near her and being available because of her history…and now dementia. I dread visiting her and feel really guilty about it. I really try to keep in mind that she is scared and knows she’s in the final stages of her life as she knows it. I’m not sure what advice I’m looking for, I just needed to vent!

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  • Quilting brings calm
    Quilting brings calm Member Posts: 2,980
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    edited October 29

    You are all doing a really great job. As my parent’s doctor told me: you can’t make them happy at this stage, all you can do is strive to keep them safe. You are doing that. I would keep limiting my visits to no more than 2 times a week, maybe even once a week each at some point. You aren’t required to take the abuse. The staff will call you if they need you in-between.

    I would also suggest you ask that a UTI culture be done as UTIs can present as a sharp progression of dementia.

  • pamu
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    They checked for a UTI last week, negative. Mom had a hidden UTI 7 years ago that caused her shingles and Ramsey Hunt Syndrome which she ended up in the hospital for a week then a stint in rehab. I think she’s had four urine cultures in the past two months. who knew a UTI could wreak such havoc? I appreciate your advice and supportive words!

  • SDianeL
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    the behavior you describe is very common. Wanting to go home is common. To many PWDs home is a feeling not a place. Wanting to go home is caused by anxiety. Many have used the fib that their LO needs to stay because the doctor says so, or that the house is being repaired or remodeled and isn’t safe. You will have to answer that at every visit probably multiple times. I never told my DH goodbye when I left after my visits because it triggered him wanting to go home. I quietly left and told the nurse I was leaving. She would then distract him with ice cream. I would talk to her doctor about anti anxiety meds if she’s not already on them.

  • pamu
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    She was already on a low dose of Venlafaxine, which the memory care increased her dose to 150 mg two weeks ago. No other new meds have been added. My mom thinks that she can leave and come and live with me…she says temporarily (she cannot). We’ve been telling her that she suffered a head injury and is under observation . We no longer discuss her dementia diagnosis with her because she gets angry. Our fibs are not accepted and she is not easy to divert. So difficult. Thank you for your comments.

  • Anonymousjpl123
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    it sounds like you and your sister are doing an amazing job. Kudos to you for finding a safe, clean, and caring place for her and checking in. I would say now is a good time to be sure you are taking care of yourself. Yes, of course visit, but also it sounds like an utterly exhausting journey especially given her troubling history. You absolutely need to give yourself care, too.

    In terms of wanting to to go home, yes, as @SDianeL Says very common. She is still adjusting. I would give her some time. My mom is in MC now and her disease is progressing but not once in 14 months has she seemed unhappy with the place. The adjustment was hard.

    also: I have learned first hand coping with a challenging parent you had a fraught relationship with is a special kind of awful. I have only survived it by asking for - and getting - a lot of help. I’m glad you found this place. Keep us posted on how it goes.

  • brain illness duo
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    It sounds like her mood disorder isn't being treated.

    My mom has the same dual diagnosis: history of forced hospitalizations for psychotic breaks and Alzheimer's diagnosis in her late 70's.

    My mom has an excellent neuropsychiatrist who researched her medications just to be sure giving her anti-psychotics at her age and dementia level was appropriate. It was agreed it was best to give her quality of life.

    She also has anosognosia regarding her mood disorder and would never stay on her meds, hence her need for hospitalizations over my lifetime. We knew when a psychotic break could be approaching because she would be up all night, irritated and mean. She was finally willing to take Mirtazapine at night for "sleep" because she able to accept she has a "sleep disorder". Years later when the Alzheimer's showed up it has kept her from leaving the house at night, although eventually she didn't know where to find the door. And for anyone thinking the meds gave her Alzheimer's, she has a STRONG family history of Alzheimer's.

    She always refused any medications as she doesn't think she has a problem. As she got older and I had to take over her care (my Dad died) she was willing to take Seroquel, prescribed to her for years but she had refused. She gets 25mg morning and night, plus 50mg mid-afternoon to help with sundowning. I know many people see it as just a way to numb their LO and view it negatively, but it has brought some semblance of a mom back to me and improved her ability to be present. She recently started Memantine (for Alzheimer's) to help her retain her words as long as possible, which also helps with agitation. For the first time in my life my mom hugged me for giving her a small gift!! My mom was NEVER affectionate and believe me it felt weird.

    I was raised by a depressed, distant mother. She could fake it around company but not for me. She used to nap all day. Now she is awake during the day, and sleeps at night, and she isn't "out of it" (with the exception of her memory problems).

    I think her "cocktail" of medications has allowed her to find some happiness, whatever that means at this stage. She can enjoy people more and appreciate life. Once called "not social" by my dad, she even has a friend in her memory care unit. Unfortunately, too late in life to really enjoy relationships, but at least it's taken the edge of her awful condition.

  • pamu
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    It's been a wild ride! I'd also like to mention that I don't expect her to be happy about her circumstance but what is frustrating is that she doesn't have to go through this alone just because she's in memory care. Besides myself and my sister, she has siblings that want to visit/contact her regularly but are cautious to because she is continually upset.

    I'm glad your mom settled at her MC, it gives me a little hope. Thank you for the kind words and support.

  • pamu
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    You are right about her mood disorder not being treated. Prior to her fall, she was so angry that she was diagnosed with Alzheimer's that she refused any medications that could help. She was prescribed a low dose of Venlafaxine around 7 years ago but she thought it was just prescribed to help her sleep so she's been taking that without a problem. Fast forward to this year and her fall/cognitive decline - her PCP and neurologist refused to give her any new medications to help despite my continual requests and mom would not go see her geri-psych doctor (which I told the other doctors this). Her MC facility has upped her Venlafaxine for now but from what we are told they do not want to introduce Seroquel or Risperidone yet (because one of the side effects is fall risk). I wish they would try something though. Of course I don't want her drugged up unnecessarily but if it were me, I would rather be a little numbed up then scared, angry and confused all of the time. I forgot to mention that she has an as needed prescription for Ativan if she gets agitated or needs to calm down. It chills her out but not overly so.

    My mom was hospitalized for weeks/months at a time during my childhood/adolescence. It was incredibly difficult and in the 80's no one was talking about mental health. Surprisingly she has no other family members to have had Alzheimer's or any form of dementia, despite living long lives….so I've often wondered if these behaviors were due to dementia or her mental health issues. I know it's the dementia progressing but sometimes it feels the same. Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm glad your mom is doing better. It's so helpful to know we are not alone.

  • brain illness duo
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    I can relate. It was difficult to get my mom to her appointment with her neuropsychiatrist. It was always stressful wondering how I would get her there. Every ride to an appointment she'd get anxious and ask who are we going to see, why does she need to go, etc. over and over. She couldn't remember him but each time we pulled into his parking lot she'd react "Oh I know him! All he does is talk! I don't need to see him!" so I would say, "I know, but he prescribes the medicine to help you remember your words (this was important to her) and we just have to see him for 10 minutes and then we can leave and get lunch (also important to her." Once in his office she tolerated him and then as we left she'd say, "I don't need to see him again, he doesn't do anything." And I'd say "OK, let's go!" 😀

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DH = Dear Husband
DW= Dear Wife, Darling Wife
LO = Loved One
ES = Early Stage
EO = Early Onset
FTD = Frontotemporal Dementia
VD = Vascular Dementia
MC = Memory Care
AL = Assisted Living
POA = Power of Attorney
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