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My Mom has been living with us since late February after my Dad was hospitalized and passed away. My mom had been diagnosed with Alzheimer’s and MCI in April 2024. She has progressed well beyond MCI and, per her PCP, is no longer safe to live independently, drive, etc. At her PCP visit, her Dr strongly encouraged her to consider AL/MC. She was much more receptive to the idea when it came from her dr.
She has an appt tomorrow with a neurologist. I’m not sure what my expectations are for that appt other than confirmation of where things currently stand. Her progression from MCI to where we are now, in almost exactly 2 years, is pretty shocking to me. Things are progressing very quickly or there is something else at play. There are several things that have become more noticeable recently. A mild tremor that she has always had had become much more pronounced. I have also noticed a change in her vision. If she’s not looking directly at something, she doesn’t see it. She has also started to sleep quite a bit during the day, too.
We have an appointment scheduled with an elder law attorney in early June. Once we have all of the legal documents in place, we will start looking at AL/MC. There is something that I am torn about though. My Mom grew up and spent all of her life in a town about 40 minutes away from where I currently live. I would like to find a place close to where I and my children currently live (I’m an only child so there isn’t any conflict and my mom’s only sister passed away quite some time ago). We’ve lived here for 20+ years, my son and his wife close on a nearby house next week and my daughter and her husband live nearby, too. Mom would like to find a place in her home town - just in case her (80ish year old) friends might visit. I have explained that we would be able to visit, pick her up for outings, etc much easier if she were close by. No, she would rather be closer to her home (nothing between the two other than a lot of woods). My gut is telling me that closer would be better.

Any thoughts on the neurology appt? I would really like a neuro psych evaluation and a tau pet scan. Is there anything specific that I should be asking for with the attorney other than dpoa? And lastly, any thoughts on the question of location?

A heads up to anyone that may have similarly been thrown in to the deep end. Getting an appt with a neurologist was not easy - many in our area were scheduling appts as far out as 2027. Persistence and lots of phone calls were needed. Pretty much the same thing when trying to find a lawyer. One that I mentioned the A word to wouldn’t even call me back. Another one called me back but said that he didn’t have time and referred me to someone else. The CELA that I was able to schedule with, I mentioned MCI but not Alzheimer’s.

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  • SusanB-dil
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    I'm sorry on the loss of dad.

    As for the location… if not already, she will not really remember where she is. You could also tell her that she is very close. If you are open to 'fiblets', you could tell her she is close to her hometown. If not, you could tell her she is close to you and family. Are her 'friends' visiting her now? Then they will continue, anyway. If not, then that is pretty much a non-issue.

    We are very glad we have the neurologist on our team. They can prescribe and adjust various meds to find what exactly works best, and can change the prescriptions as needed.

    Yes - that is normal with doc appointments. Frustrating! But I found, at least in our case, that already having the neurologist, we can go through the health-portal if we need anything.

    Now lawyer appointments are difficult? I am sorry to hear that. My folks and DH folks had paperwork in place before all 'this' came down on us.

    Also - yes - I don't think we realized my mom was farther along than we thought - until we lost my dad. He had been scaffolding her more than we knew. And also the fact that her 65-years partner was gone probably pushed things along a little faster than would have been otherwise.

  • notequipped
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    Thank you. Very open to fiblets. Not a single friend or relative has visited, taken her to lunch, etc. Sort of par for the course that we are bending over backwards and have turned our lives upside down and she would rather be there than here. Unfortunately, that is not due to the Alzheimer’s.

  • SusanB-dil
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    Actually, it may be at least partially alz-related, but agree, maybe only partially. If she was like that before, as my grandmother was, grandmother wasn't really happy wherever.

  • notequipped
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    More that we’re sort of like oil and water. A friend that might visit is better than the daughter that will. I thought that her grandchildren that would be closer would be a selling point. No such luck. Trying my best to do the right thing.

  • H1235
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    My mom was much more receptive to things the doctor told her versus me. But just a year after diagnosis she was claiming the doctor didn’t know what they were talking about and she is perfectly fine to live in her own house. So frustrating! Some facilities can have a waiting list to get in. It might be good at least start looking at options rather than waiting til after seeming the lawyer. As a caregiver you have to consider your mental and physical health as well as that of your family. I would move her near you. Period. Even in a facility there is a lot of work involved. She is probably not able to understand how much you will need to do. I don’t know how you get her on board with that. Maybe tell her the facilities near her were not nice, they had no openings, even tell her the move to the facility near you is temporary until there is an opening in her hometown. I have found that mom is mad about a lot of things I do that she doesn’t understand. As much as I try, in some cases, I have accepted that keeping her happy is beyond my control.
    As far as the lawyer. You might also want to ask about a living will. Do you have a clear picture of her finances? If you think there is a possibility she may run out of money, you might want to ask questions about Medicaid qualifications. It’s so hard to make decisions when you have no idea what the future holds. Assisted living will only be safe for so long, then memory care will be necessary (even more expensive). Will her house eventually need to be sold to cover costs? It’s a lot to think about. We knew mom would not be able to stay in Al long and would then need to apply for Medicaid. Our lawyer advised her to do a prepaid funeral to protect assets and avoid leaving family to cover this expense.

    It took me a long time to get mom into the neurologist. I hope they can get you some answers. Mom saw a neuro physic (2 hour evaluation), had an mri or ct(can’t remember) then saw another neurologist specializing in movement. This eventually got her a diagnosis of vascular dementia. Vascular dementia for mom has presented with fewer memory issues and more problems with judgment and decision making. Life expectancy can be different for the different types of dementia also. Unfortunately vascular dementia has an average life expectancy of 3-5 years vs Alzheimer’s which is 4-8. But mom was diagnosed 3 years ago is 80 yr old with diabetes and has barely progressed, so you never know. They checked mom for lewey body dementia since she was having trouble walking. Your mom’s tremors and sight problems may be an indication of a type of dementia other than Alzheimer’s (but I’m no doctor). I think the basics are the same but each type might have something slightly different. I will attach a few resources just in case you haven’t seen them yet. The dbat is really good at laying out symptoms and stages.

  • terei
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    Arrange to have her near you. If you have to, tell her there are no openings in the one near where she is now and set up the move where you want her to be. Time will fly and she will no longer have a clear idea where she is, frankly. It will be hard enough to manage her care, let alone not having her near.

    I would encourage you to place her where they have medical staff that come in for her medical care….It took a tremendous weight off my family to not have to shuttle mom to dr appointments.

  • notequipped
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    That is pretty much what I was thinking. I would like to bring her with me to tour several facilities. I would like to see how she reacts and how staff interact with her. I wonder If I could ask specifically ahead of time that they not discuss cost or availability in front of her.

  • psg712
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    I'd suggest touring facilities without her. It will only ramp up her anxiety and her resistance, and multiple options will overwhelm and confuse her. You are the decision maker now.

    Agree wholeheartedly with all who said move her close to you. Location will matter less to her as time goes on, and it will be crucial for you to be close at hand for any issue that arises ... as well as to keep an eye on her care.

  • notequipped
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    Thank you for the links. I’m relatively confident that we will be fine from a financial perspective although it’s hard to say. Some people on her side of the family have lived into their 90’s. We would run into issues down the line if that were to be the case. Her house and the vehicles are just a financial drain at this point though. It seems like she would be better off selling them and investing the proceeds. Paying a cable bill at a house where no one has watched the tv in months is making me crazy. Not to mention electric, water, sewer, home owners insurance, taxes, etc. She would never agree to that even though I don’t see any path forward that would allow her to live there again.

  • lilacgirl
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    I visited a few facilities by myself and when I found the one that I thought would work the best, I did take my mom to visit— and yes, I asked them to not discuss $$ with her at all, and they honored my wishes.

    My mom's house is also sitting empty (we did shut off cable and water) with a car in the garage — also makes me crazy, but she's emotionally not ready to accept selling the place, and still too aware to do it without telling her.

  • Quilting brings calm
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    My mom and step-dad wanted an AL in a small town, not the larger one closer to me. So I put them in a facility recommended to me by friends. It was 35 minutes away from me. A doable drive, although it got old when I was there more than once a week. The real problem? Some of their doctors were a 50 minute drive from the facility. Too far for the facility to transport them. So I had to drive 35 minutes to get one of them, then 50 minutes to the doctor / and then reverse that afterwards. I had to take half the day off to take them to the doctor. Even the doctors closer to them were at least 20 minutes from their facility. And my parents made up excuses to go to the doctor for the ability to leave the facility during Covid.

  • H1235
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    edited May 19

    Unfortunately we still have moms house. I have a very difficult brother that would not dream of keeping anything from mom. If I sold the house he would tell her. I had to weigh the advantages of selling with my brother upsetting her. I cancelled the cable and land line as soon as she moved out (3 years ago). At this point I have the water turned off and the trash stopped. It’s a lot of work maintaining a house no one lives in. It’s also an hour drive for me.
    I would be cautious with tours. I agree with psg712. If she gets overwhelmed with all the choices and tours or feels pressured she may change her mind. She may express her frustration by finding fault with the places. I would find the one you like the best and show her that. If she insists on seeing one in her town, show her something less desirable.

  • notequipped
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    I was under the impression that insurance is also an issue when the house is not occupied. I believe that you need special insurance. Otherwise, you may not be covered in the event of a loss. My husband works in construction and insurance companies are getting increasingly crafty about how they monitor insured properties. Yet another thing to keep in mind/worry about.

    Initially, I was just going to find a place for my Mom and tell her that we were going on vacation to get her there. Since her Dr brought it up to her and she seems more receptive to the idea, I thought it would be good to involve her. May be a good idea to show her a less desirable option but, knowing her, she would think that would be better because it would cost less. I keep asking her if she’s saving up for something big that I don’t know about. My Dad would have wanted my Mom to be well taken care of. Not going to be an easy task by any stretch of the imagination.

  • H1235
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    I had to get special insurance for moms unoccupied house. When we toured the facility they showed us 2 rooms and told us the bigger room was an additional $300 a month. Mom misunderstood and thought they had said an additional $30 a month. I never corrected the mistake. She was absolutely outraged over an additional $30. To appease her I got her the smaller room. So she didn’t have to pay that extra $30 🙄.

  • pjasso
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    I too am sorry about the loss of your dad and your mom's progression and all that you are going through. My only comment is about having two doctors who know her. I have been my mom's POA for several years now, but my mom was the trustee of her trust, not me. I was only a successor. Recently my mom has been amping up her calls and requests to her financial advisor asking her to send her large sums of money! Her financial advisor is very well versed in this situation, very caring and empathetic and has been working with me and distracting my mom on her requests, but since my mom is the legal trustee, at some point the advisor has to follow my mom's requests. I JUST recently was able to get her 2 doctor's letters stating she no longer has the capacity to manage her financial affairs and I, the successor, am now the trustee of her trust. So, my mom's finances are now protected from herself.

    If I had not had both her primary and her neurologist on board, the process would have been trickier. It was very easy with their willingness to provide the letters immediately. So, be sure to look into that, if she has a trust.
    Good luck!

  • H1235
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    I also got a letter signed by two doctors stating mom was not capable of making medical or financial decisions for herself. She doesn’t have a trust and so far I have not had to use it, but I’m glad I got it. I have a sibling that has his head buried pretty deep in the sand, so if nothing else I use it to support the decisions I have made for mom when dealing with him.

  • notequipped
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    Absolutely loved the neurologist that we saw today. She seemed genuinely concerned with what I consider to be my mom’s rapid progression. I have already scheduled the brain MRI that she ordered today. She also ordered a 2 day 6 hour neuro psych evaluation and bloodwork to check for other things that could be going on. Also gave me a really big hug and told me that they have someone available that can help me get things sorted out. I’m guessing a social worker? I felt like we were both conscious of the balance of how much do we subject her to while at the same time making sure that we have a good understanding of where she is to be able to appropriately plan for her care. The office that they send people to for the neuro psych evaluation should call us to schedule by Tuesday, if we don’t hear from them by then they gave me the number to call. They instructed me to call back once we have everything scheduled so they can schedule her for the follow up in her office. She will be calling with test results as they come in. I felt very supported there. I feel like i found the right place.

    Other than bloodwork and scheduling the neuro psych evaluation, next up is our appointment with the lawyer. The next 2 weeks are super busy. Memorial Day, my husband’s birthday, my son and his wife close on their house, appointment with the lawyer, an MRI and a much needed night out complete with dinner reservations that have been made and concert tickets in hand. My daughter will be keeping mom busy for the night. Tomorrow will be 3 months that me or my husband have been with her 24/7. I’m really looking forward to a couple of hours away.

  • H1235
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    I am so glad everything went well and things are moving forward in a positive way. Enjoy the night out on the town with your husband.

  • Grenah
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    I'm jealous of the night out. No way I'll be getting that any time in the foreseeable future. We are rapidly approaching the time when we may need to put my mother in a facility. Another home health aid will help as she rarely sleeps through the night and has been having some disconcerting behaviors. ER is the last resort as they can usually do nothing. A facility is the next step. She has been in rehab in a nursing home nearby and it's pretty good. They do have a dementia floor. We might qualify for Medicaid in two years, so it will be out of pocket. If it comes to that I have no idea how we will manage the transfer. Her touring the facility is out of the question as she will not understand and has mobility issues. I'm looking at a day program for now. Residential is not that far down the road and I'm at a total loss as to how to handle it. When the time comes we'll just have to figure it out.

    On an amusing note, her neurologist is 90 something years old. We had the neuro psych evaluation done last year. On a practical level, I didn't see that it made any difference. Call it what you will, it is what it is and an hour long exam didn't prove helpful in dealing with this.

    Thanks for listening.

  • H1235
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    Have you met with a lawyer about Medicaid qualifications? It’s a very complicated process and they may be able to get her qualified sooner. If she has too much money now and the end result is for her to have practically none so she can qualify, why not just pay out of pocket til she meets the minimum asset requirements (it will go quickly). I know it’s probably more complicated than that.

  • SDianeL
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    so sorry about your parents. Be sure to tell the Neurologist about all her symptoms. Vision problems can be a rare Alzheimer’s called Posterior Cortical Atrophy which may explain the tremor too. My husbands Neurologist was finally diagnosed with PCA 18 months after original diagnosis. He progressed quickly. 💜

  • notequipped
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    Thank you. I just looked up PCA. Describes my mom to a T, especially the part about cognitive decline preceding memory loss. Memory loss has just recently become evident. I’m strangely looking forward to the neuro psych exam. I’m guessing because it will objectively validate what I’ve been seeing. It makes things so much more difficult when other people think that she’s fine. I think on some level I’m hoping that it will provide a crystal ball view of where she is now and what the prognosis is, too. It’s hard to know if she has really declined in the 3 months that she’s been here or if we’re just seeing it more because we’re with her 24/7 and are aware of it. There’s no doubt though that the progression from 2 years ago to now is alarming.

  • Billmo
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    So sorry to here about the passing of your dad and your mother's cognitive problems and your position.

    By now you saw a neurologist with your mom and should have an idea after testing what's next.

    I can only mention I am 72 years old and was diagnosed with MCI in 2019 by my PCP and my memory was getting much worse after a TIA in March 2024 that was caused by embolisms in two arteries in my right eye that damaged my retina evaluated by a retina specialist in May 2024 and his test showed a plaque and inner retinal thinning of unknown causes. My PCP and Ophthalmologist did not think or mention AD to me.

    In December 2025, My father in law was hospitalized after he passed out in a restaurant after he was soaked in urine and a bowel movement. He had Type 2 Diabetes for years and has AD as well that was supposingly Mild. Anyway, he lived alone 5 minutes from our home, but refused to leave his home. However, the hospital would not release him until his daughter and my daughter arranged for assisted living that is 15 minutes from her home and my wife takes care of paying all his bills for both his home, auto, and the assisted living care facility. My spouse took away his keys. I visit him every day and brin him a thermos with coffee, and I take him out twice for lunch to his two favorite restaurants.

    In January 2026, I was at my appointment with my PCP who realized I was suffering with depression and said something to him like I would be better off dead. I had Polymyositis, Dermatomyositis, Secondary Sjogren's Syndrome, and Sleep Apnea since 2008 and been on CPAP. I was diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes in 2016, and now he tells me my MCI has progressed to the point he referred me to a good Neurologist at PARADIGM for more extensive testing and evaluation for probable AD or some other form of dementia after he ran every many other blood tests ruling other stuff out since my diabetes medications was under control with an A1c of 5.8. He immediately prescribed an antidepressant and anxiety medication and sent a report to the Neurologist he referred me to.

    In March 2026, The Neurologist ran a lot of cognitive tests on me checking, my memory, thinking, balance, and coordination that 2was not so good. He had Labcorp draw my blood for the new Lumipulse Beta Amyloid 42 and ptau217 blood test and also had PARADIGM perform a brain MRI and EEG within a couple days on me. He called me about 4pm on 26 March informing me that I tested a positive high for Amyloid Plaques and Tau Tangles in my brain as well as my blood. He also mentioned it was highly probable the plaque in my right eye retina and retinal thinning was caused by the AD. I will be seeing the retina specialist in June 2026 with the updates to have both eyes examined more thoroughly if that is the case. Apparently the brain and retinas are associated and in some cases the eyes may be affected even before the memory symptoms show up. Also since I have Diabetes too, I may have a mixed form of both AD and Vascular Dementia or will have. He put me on Donepezal on the followup a few weeks later that I cannot tell if it is working or not. I will have to see him every 3 months and have repeated Annual Brain MRIs to monitor shrinkage, not sure if he will do a PET in the future to see how much of the brain shows the plaques and tangles. Maybe someone else had this done down the road as disease progressed.

    How do I know so much in such a short time. In 2020 at Age 66 I retired form working for the US Navy as a civil servant engineer for over 40 years, I decided to retire in early 2020 since my memory and concentration was becoming evident for 2 years where I would be giving presentations to upper management as an engineering project manager and forget what I was about to say and was hiding it with humor, jokes, or old stories, which all led back to my PCP MCI diagnosis in 2020 or 2021 just after I retired.

    Having been an expert in problem solving and research for so many years as an engineer, I researched AD after my diagnosis via google searches and I purchased 3 recent hardback books on MCI and Dementias. Two are from the Johns Hopkins Library and one form the Mayo Clinic that I purchased on Amazon and highly recommend to new patients of MCI and Dementias like AD and caregivers.

    1. Is It Alzheimer's, 101 Answers to your most pressing questions about memory loss and dementia, second edition or newer by Peter V Rabins, MD, MPH. A Johns Hopkins Press Health Book
    2. The 36-Hour Day, Eighth Edition; A family Guide to Caring for People with Alzheimer's Disease. Other Dementias, and Memory Loss, by Peter V Ramins MD, MPH and Nancy L Mace, MA A Johns Hopkins Press Health Book
    3. Mayo Clinic on Alzheimer's Disease and Other Dementias, revised and updated, A guide for those with dementia and those who care for them, by Jonathon Graff-Radford MD, and Angela M Lunde MA

    I recommend all three books because they fill in gaps that are missing in the other books that make things more clear. IF you have MCI and Mild to Moderate AD like me, you may want to use a yellow highlighter to highlight important stuff to read again since I forget things mentioned to me or things I read hours later that may not be retrieved. it took me a couple hours putting this comment so forgive me if I did not edit good enough

    Most of the information I learned about Retina AD was from recent medical research symposium papers I googled written in Sweden, UK, Singapore, Japan, and Taiwan which all seem to be further advanced with AD than the USA. The Limipulse Blood Test is actually patented by a company in Japan. I provided to my PCP and all specialists I see which they were thankful for.

  • notequipped
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    As a fellow engineer (software), I appreciate the well presented information that you have provided. I just went on a mini deep dive myself. I didn’t realize there was such a connection between the eyes and Alzheimer’s. I found an interesting study where they were looking at retinal imaging at a cost effective non-invasive screening tool.

    Thank you again and all the best to you.

Commonly Used Abbreviations


DH = Dear Husband
DW= Dear Wife, Darling Wife
LO = Loved One
ES = Early Stage
EO = Early Onset
FTD = Frontotemporal Dementia
VD = Vascular Dementia
MC = Memory Care
AL = Assisted Living
POA = Power of Attorney
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