Early On Set Alzheimer's Diagnosis

My daughter, age 50, has been diagnosed with early on set alzheimer’s. It took us forever to find some place that would help us. She was diagnosed about 2 years ago. We had to go to Mayo Clinic in Rochester to get that! Washington University did not help. None of the doctors we went to in our area helped so much time was wasted just trying to get help. We did find a doctor in Ozark Mo that was doing stem cell treatments and my daughter had 2 of those. I don't know if it didn't help or if she was too far advanced for it to help. Plus the cost was very expensive. We are lost. We have no support and stumbling through this together. (her husband and 3 sisters and me (her mom)) She gets very agitated to the point of hitting and crying. She has 2 children. Boy 22, Girl 17. We are lost!!!!! Her husband works for the RR so when any place we have gone for help finds out he works for the RR we hit a brick wall. Any help or suggestions we could get would be greatly appreciated.

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  • mawmawof11
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    I should also say that no one has ever told the stage she is at. Mayo did tell us that she would advance swiftly. We do not even know what we will be facing in the future nor how to handle it.
  • H1235
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    edited May 26

    Welcome. I think probably most here have not been given a stage based on the 7 stage model. Doctors tend to use the 3 stage model. I will attach the dbat. I think you will have a better idea of stage than a doctor, since you see your more. She would be considered in the last stage she has symptoms. She will not necessarily have all the symptoms for each stage. I don’t know about treatment for early onset, but I know for my mom with vascular dementia there is nothing, so I’m not surprised. It sounds like what you really need is a doctor to help with medication for the symptoms. Some here have found their pcp helpful and others a neurologist. The right medication can make a big difference. How you interact with her may also make a difference. We have a saying her never try to reason with a person with dementia, it will only lead to an argument (and you will lose the argument). I go to crazy extremes to avoid any topic that is going to upset mom. I never ever mention dementia or her symptoms. I avoid including her in discussions and decisions that she is not able to understand (move to a facility, finances…). It’s like walking on egg shells. Bottom line unless it’s a safety thing, she is just always right. It’s hard!

  • Quilting brings calm
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    I don’t understand the railroad employment issue. Railroad employees have medical insurance just like everyone else. Or are you saying that you are trying to get her on Medicaid and they make too much money? Are you trying to get her Medicaid for while she is at home or at a facility? There’s different eligibility requirements for each kind. Depending on what state they are in, her spouse would be allowed to keep certain assets if she were accepted into Institutional ( facility) Medicaid.

  • harshedbuzz
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    @mawmawof11

    I am so sorry for what your family is experiencing. EO is especially difficult.

    It's not clear what sort of support— specifically— you are seeking. How does "working for the RR" factor into this for your family?

    IME, most of the memory clinics and centers aren't able to offer much beyond a diagnosis because there just isn't much they can offer. There are the newer infusion medications, but it sounds as though your DD would not be a candidate for them. A geriatric psychiatrist would be the best option for medication to help calm your DD's agitation. If you can't access one, her neurologist should be able to order something. If she were to become seriously agitated to the point of being a risk to herself or others, she could be transported to the ER for transfer to a geri/psych unit for medication management.

    If you're curious about what lies ahead, a book like The 36 Hour Day would be a good option. It not only explains progression through the disease but also the strategies used to manage the situation. Teepa Snow and Dementia Careblazers have YouTube channels that are also very helpful.

    And finally, there is a website offering support and information specifically for EO families. It's mostly targeted at young adult children of PWD but you all may find useful information there.

    HB

  • mawmawof11
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    Thank you for the information you shared with me. I shared with my other daughters and they all seem to think she is at stage 5. We are all in agreement that her husband is the "trigger". When one of us goes and gets her when she is having a bad day (like today, now) she is fine and is content to just be. We do have upcoming dr appointments for her but like everything else it takes time. At this point I am considering getting a lawyer to get Power of "something". I know 24/7 care is trying. but I really feel if her husband would just let her be and quit trying to involve her in conversations, asking her questions, etc….it would be much simpler. Maybe I'm wrong. There is just a BIG difference between her being with us versus being with him. Her husband is so high strung!!!! When we tell him to just leave her alone or walk outside or to quit trying to engage her, he doesn't.

  • mawmawof11
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    I don't understand the RR issue either. We have tried to get her on Medicaid so she/we can get help/support. When medicaid finds out he is employed by RR they tell us we have to go through the RR because they have their own "retirement", their own "social security". My daughter has been a hair dresser for years. Owned her own shop. Worked for herself. I just don't understand it when I see people that have never worked or worked very little and have a lot of benefits. I don't know their financial status, but I don't think they are stable enough to take on the full cost of Alzheimer's. (who is?)

  • H1235
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    Have you talked with an elder law attorney? That might be the way to go. Some people just don’t understand the need to change the way we interact with our loved one with dementia. There are some great you tube videos that may help if he is open to learning more (some people just aren’t). Teepa Snow is good and so is Careblazers. I found the attached helpful early on.

    https://iona.org/therapeutic-fibs-ok/

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  • Quilting brings calm
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    edited May 28

    @mawmawof11

    My spouse is a railroad retiree who was on railroad disability ( he doesn’t have dementia). The railroad does have their own pension and an equivalent to social security ( it’s called tier 1 and tier 2). Their system is older than social security. They do have Medicare - it’s just like normal Medicare with a different series of ID numbers and a different address for claims. I am not aware of a railroad Medicaid, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t one. I’m not aware is a railroad spouse being on disability either, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t one.

    Retired spouses of retired or disabled railroad workers are entitled to a monthly amount that is a percentage of the railroad retirees tier 1 and 2 under certain criteria ( and it’s in addition to the worker’s retirement). They are also eligible for railroad Medicare just like their retired wirker spouse

    I don’t know the rules for disabled spouses of active employees.

    As an active railroad employee, her husband should consult with his railroad employer, his union if he is in one, and the railroad retirement board. Larger towns and cities have railroad retirement board offices where you can meet with actual people to discuss this stuff. RRB.gov is the website. It’s pretty detailed.

  • mawmawof11
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    Thank you for that information. We can only go by what the husband tells us. I'll to check this out though.

  • mawmawof11
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    I didn't know there was an elder law attorney.

    I get that 24/7 is exhausting. And caregiving tries your nerves like no other. Her sisters and I try to help any time we can. Being kept in "the know" would go a long way.

  • sandwichone123
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    Having younger-onset can be difficult, because many resources are for people age 60 and older, and we hit a brick wall there. You do need an elder law attorney, because they are familiar with the issues around dementia. That person may also be able to untangle your daughter's years of work under Social Security and her husband's railroad employment, which is not under Social Security or Medicare.

    This is going to sound cold, and I apologize, but your daughter won't get better no matter what you do. Please look out for the kids. Do not let their mother's needs keep them tied to the nest or overlook their celebrations and accomplishments. Their mom will not be able to be there for them, so family needs to step in so these kids can build their lives even though it's a difficult time for all.

Commonly Used Abbreviations


DH = Dear Husband
DW= Dear Wife, Darling Wife
LO = Loved One
ES = Early Stage
EO = Early Onset
FTD = Frontotemporal Dementia
VD = Vascular Dementia
MC = Memory Care
AL = Assisted Living
POA = Power of Attorney
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