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JulietteBee
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edited May 28 in Caring for a Parent

My husband & I just "baby-proofed" our new house in anticipation of my 84 year old mom moving in. She has spiraled quickly over the past few months.

She moved in today! The days leading up to today's move has been maddening. She did everything contrary to instructions given. Her meds are either not being taken, or worse, she has been taking all of them at one time, failing to do a.m & p.m doses as ordered. Today has already been maddening & has reduced me tears. I fear every day until she/I die, will be equally maddening. Apparently, THIS is my "New norm."😢

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  • ajzjmsmom
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    I feel for you and so sorry that we all find ourselves at this place. We just inherited my FIL part-time after the death of his wife in April. Due to jobs we take care of him in his house from Friday afternoons until late afternoon Sundays and then if the primary caregiver has to do anything we will take the days off and take care of him then as well.

    The amount of work it takes to keep up with him and keep him safe is overwhelming somedays, fortunately my husband and I tag team so it isn't just one of us taking care of him. There is so much to consider when it comes to caregiving for a PWD, while they are like a child, there are so many other things that they can do that a child wouldn't think about doing. My thoughts as with you.

  • psg712
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    Your stories give support to the view that the middle stages are the most complicated, dangerous to the PWD and stressful to the caregivers. PWD at these stages still have abilities to do a lot of things, but they don't have the insight or judgment to do them safely. Sometimes an extended visit or moving in together makes it clear that they are more impaired than they appear on shorter visits.

    This is the time at which we have make decisions they don't like in order to keep them safe. It runs counter to all we've been taught about personal autonomy and respect for our parents. But to keep them safe, we take the car keys, lock up the meds, change the passwords on their accounts. If they persist in climbing stairs, using the stove, leaving the house alone, we take a serious look at placement. Again, for their safety, as well as for your health and the health of your other relationships.

    I respect your desire to keep your LOs at home; just be realistic about the fact that this disease is progressive, stressful on your other relationships, and you will need outside help of some kind at some point. Also a plan B for their care if you are temporarily sidelined by illness or other family crisis. It's so hard. My heart goes out to both of you.

  • Emily 123
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    It’s a difficult adjustment to make for everyone. More exposure makes it clear how extensive the losses are. She won’t have her routine to keep her on track, and the disease will make it so that she can’t recall where things are in your home, or even why she’s there. She won’t have much sense of time passing-you have to have a working memory to do that. My mom spent 9 months with me, and she usually thought she was visiting for a weekend. I just ran with that.
    She’ll have limited ability to remember even fairly recent conversations or and can get confused with trying to do more than one or two steps of a task, like taking pills. Just assume if it’s not sitting directly in front of her that she won’t have a cue for a task. Even that assumption might be wrong—things can be in front of them but overlooked because they forget that they were going to do something with them, or they can’t recall how to get started. A PWD that used to post here said that even initiating simple tasks was like having a pack of cards laid out in front of them and they didn’t know which ones to pick in order to get things done. A lot of her day will feel to her like she’s always wrong.
    This is a good video

  • JulietteBee
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    @ajzjmsmom, thank you!

    Over the past month, I had been doing more reading than responding. So, I was aware of your story. I am so sorry you have found yourself in this plight with your sil & fil.

    You are totally correct when you pointed out that our pwd can and will do things that would absolutely NEVER cross a child's mind. That is what makes it so difficult on the caregiver/s who are trying to stay ahead of the curve. We never know what behavior is going to emerge, or when.

    Hugs to you!🫂

  • JulietteBee
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    Thank you, @psg712!

    A friend of mine who had cared for her mil with dementia once told me, "Oh, you are in the fun stage." I was wondering what was so "fun" about this stage. I later learned she was being sarcastic.

    I do not want my mom to lose more functions, BUT those she currently retains, are sufficient to drive me insane.

    I had been watching her decline, yet the magnitude of it did not dawn on me until Wednesday evening after she had moved in and the sun went down. Omg…

    Yes, getting outside help is the plan. I am physically disabled and aware of my limitations. The loss of any one function is my cue to hire outside help.

    As I am an RN, I am willing to take on med management. I am not willing to take on anything else.

  • JulietteBee
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    edited June 1

    @Emily 123, that was a very thorough video presentation of the "Moderate stage." Thank you for sharing.

    Mom's level of distraction is as problematic as he memory. Some days, she forgets what she asked & was told, in less than 30 seconds. The repetition is maddening.

    Since she moved in, I have given her tasks and find that she can not/will not stay on task. If I want her to do something in a timely manner, it requires many reminders before she even BEGINS. In those instances, she literally gets distracted in her own mind.

    I understand what you mean about lack of routine. That is why we actually moved in an entire month before she came. I wanted to take the time to find local resources in which to tap into. Thankfully, my city's senior center is 1 mile away & provide lots of activities, and even transportation. My city also offers free gym membership to all residents. Moving her from an activity filled ILF, I am now responsible to fill her day, like they did and provide her with a routine, like they did.😢

  • JulietteBee
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    @MissOldMom, thank you so much for sharing your journey. Thank you for the empathy and your words of advice. You are 100% accurate.

    A dear friend of mine and I have a spa membership where we get a 50-minute massage, monthly, and unlimited use of their sauna/steam room. I was actually thinking about canceling the membership in light of mom's decline & relocation. You just reminded me that if I want my 20 year old friendship to continue, I should not cancel. We have been doing once a month, girls' night out for awhile and it would be a shame to let it die because of neglect. Hubby is pretty good at insisting I get some "Me Time," so I know he will take care of mom for me, on that one night. Thanks again for the gentle reminder.🌷

    I am sorry to know of your own difficulties, but what I love about this group is that ppl further ahead on this God-awful journey, are often willing to help the newbies through a difficult patch that they have already passed through. Thank you!

  • Emily 123
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    edited May 31

    It's a jump to adjust. Don't get too focused on keeping her busy or entertained. By its nature the disease diminishes your loved one's capacity to feel happy and engaged. That doesn't correlate to how much you care or how hard you're trying.

    Your mom'll be using a lot of bandwidth just to keep up with processing her thoughts throughout the day and she'll need some downtime. Keep in mind too that she won't remember anything she's done recently, so may complain to you of being bored even though you're bending over backwards to find things she can do. That's the disease—She honestly thinks she's been sitting around doing nothing because she can't recall her day. Try not to let that get too frustrating or let it make you feel like you need to do more. The tasks my mom did best with were short and had a definite end (Sorting clean laundry, labeling a stack of family photos, cleaning some silver). She had an ipad from about 10 years prior to us intervening and she played solitaire on it from day 1 until late in her progression. Are there any kind of rote games or TV shows your mom might like?

    Another source of frustration is driven by a mismatch between what the person thinks they can still do and the reality. The person may talk a good game about activities and you might work to set something up for them, but when push comes to shove they'll often find a reason not to do it, or won't really participate, because it's become too challenging. For my mom that was water aerobics, which she loved—every day she'd talk about joining a class, every day I'd try to get her to go to the pool, she'd talk about it all day, then when it came time to put on a suit she would get really quiet and then balk ("I think I have a UTI" "Tomorrow"). Eventually I'd just talk to her like she was actually going every day and that seemed to make her happy, which was more of a win than trying to coax her into her bathing suit. You get used to fibbing a lot.

  • harshedbuzz
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    @JulietteBee

    You have been in my thoughts.

    I hope the stress of having a PWD in-house doesn't impact your health or the fondness you have for your mom.

    HB

  • JulietteBee
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    @Emily 123, thank you for the forewarning. Yes, I've been obsessed with trying to make a schedule of things for her to do each day, in an attempt to stave off boredom, isolation, and depression.

    Mom is tri-lingual and currently is excited to take a refresher Latin class that is being offered at the senior center. I allowed her to sign up for it due to her excitement seeing it listed. I fear she is in for a rude awakening when she finds she can not readily recall the information being shared in class. I surely thought she would have opted for something easier, but bless her heart, she was happy to inform me that of all languages, conversational Latin provides mental stimulation. We will see how it goes on Tuesday. I just don't want her to become devastated or embarrassed when faced with her reality.😢

  • JulietteBee
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    Oh, @harshedbuzz, thank you for your thoughts and concerns.

    Seeing the word "Alzheimers" in mom's portal, triggered something in me. This move quickly became my Plan B which thankfully was consented to by the others in my household. My desire was to be proactive rather than reactive. I can not say that I ever thought of my own health or wellbeing.

    Tonight, at the the end of day 3, while I am happy that she is under the same roof, I am now realizing that it is already taking a toll on my health. What, to me, is even more painful, is that my mom has forgotten I have my own health challenges and makes great demands of my time and attention.💔

  • psg712
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    That to me is one of the toughest personal losses for family of PWD, especially the life partners and children. Our LOs just don't have capacity to care for us the way we need them to care.

  • JulietteBee
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    @psg712, I can attest to the fact that that loss hurts me badly.

    This was the woman who spent sleepless nights at my hospital bedside throughout my childhood and many daytime hours advocating on my behalf throughout my adulthood. Now...💔

  • psg712
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    I hear you. My mom went through breast cancer 25+ years ago. When I got the same diagnosis last year, I didn't even tell her. It was easier than facing her apathy over something that big in my life 😞.

  • JulietteBee
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    edited June 5

    Ouch, @psg712, that hurts badly. I am so sorry.🫂

  • Daisy4U
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    Reading your post and the responses brings up so many feelings, @JulietteBee. Sending supportive thoughts your way as you embark on this journey of love and caring. There will be peaks and many valleys in the honourable path you've chosen. One of the hardest things is the lack of empathy and inability for PWDs to see outside their own needs as the disease progresses. The loss of a LOs deep empathy toward others is another casualty of this terrible disease.

    Glad to know you plan on balancing as it's so important to perform self care. I failed miserably at that aspect. And am now feeling the effects after 10+ years of primary caregiving. Five weeks ago, my 92 year mom moved to LTC. The "terrible two" stage described is over, yet the challenges remain addressing the rapid decline that led up to her recent transition.

    Wishing you strength for the journey. Take care.

  • JulietteBee
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    edited June 9

    @Daisy4U, thank you so much for the empathy AND well wishes. It has been 12 DAYS now and it feels like I've lived 2 lifetimes, mothering my mother. It wasn't nice of me to say, but I told my mom she must have been a hell of a kid to raise. Bless her heart, she told me she was not.

    She is so contrary, argumentative, and passive-aggressive. Since I have known her, Mom has never been any of the above. I believe in aging, she has reverted back to her innate personality, the one that was never polished for society.

    I am so sorry to hear of your own mom's decline. I know that though she is no longer your 24/7 ward, your responsibilities for her does not end. However, it is never too late to introduce self-care into your regime. I pray God blesses us all with the patient perseverance and love necessary to truly "Honor our father and mother…"🫂

  • ajzjmsmom
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    your posts resonate so much with our current situation with my FIL and we are not even the primary caregivers. I have seen and heard my FIL say and do things that I would have never dreamed possible. This disease truly is the worst.

  • JulietteBee
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    I, too, hate this disease. I told my hubby that this disease came from the pit of hell. The good thing is that we no longer have to travel it alone.

  • ajzjmsmom
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    My mother had breast cancer in her 60’s and I have said more than once, I wish she would have passed from cancer. She actually died from dementia and so watching her progression through all the stages was heartbreaking. She was DX’d in 2017 but didn’t get really bad until 2023.

    My FIL has multiple comorbidity’s in addition to his dementia and I just hope his heart takes him and I don’t have to walk through this again a mere year after my mother died.

  • JulietteBee
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    @H1235, your situation sounds sadly like mine. I advocated loudly and proudly for my dad for the last 3 weeks of his life, as he laid in a hospital bed. At one point, I told him I wish it were me going through all that he was enduring. I was the one with the life-threatening disease. I was the one who should be on my deathbed, not him. He gently told me that he had had a long life and he wanted me to have a similarly long life. I was present. He knew it. He was loved. He knew it. I was appreciated. I knew it.

    Mom, on the other hand, apparently has forgotten that she gave birth to a daughter who was supposed to be dead already. While I know she loves me, I fear she doubts my love. Every day/every interaction, since Alzheimers came on the scene, ends in tears for us both. Her expectations are high and unrealistic.💔

  • Grenah
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    I am in year two of dementia with my mother. We moved from the house she had lived in for 56 years because both the house and the neighborhood were deteriorating. It was an old house with many stairs. This one only has three in the front. ADA did not exist when this house was built making for many challenges. People talk about establishing routines and finding activities for them. I have yet to find anything my mother wants to engage in. She used to knit, read voraciously and do crossword puzzles. None of these activities are available to her now. I've tried introducing simple games, adult coloring - she has no interest. I have to be careful with television because if she watches too much of one thing she'll think the police or fire departments are coming to recruit her or wants to know how the basketball team is getting home. She also used to walk which now is difficult. It takes two to get her down those three stupid stairs. I'm going to try introducing her to an adult day program but first I have to find a way to get her down the stairs by myself. Generally held wisdom is that with vascular LATE dementia we can look forward to 3 - 5 years. Everyone talks about self care. I've forgotten how to do that. I tried a support group but I can't count on having the time available and none of those ladies were living 24/7 with their pwd. It matters, it adds a whole other dimension to your life. My mother makes the occasional cameo appearance but it is few and far between. The person in my mother's body is not the one I grew up with. This is my therapy. You all understand.

    Thanks for listening.

  • JulietteBee
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    @Grenah, the members of this group truly understand.

    My mom's only desire is to take daily walks, which I am NOT to be doing. I can not get her to consent to a daycare program. She says the place depresses her. Her being underfoot, all day, every day, is already depressing me and I have only been in this situation for 2 weeks.

    I now REFUSE to cancel my "Me time" with my friend. Once a month we go for a 50 minute massage then go grab dinner.

    You HAVE TO prioritize your health & wellbeing. As the title of the book I am reading says, "Take Your Oxygen First."

  • Emily 123
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    Hi Juliette,

    Been there!

    What about an aide to take your mom for those walks a couple times a week? Gets your house back for a little while and the exercise might soothe her.

  • sandwichone123
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    One thing I've heard is that the Red Cross can build ramps for disabled people so they don't have to go up stairs to their house. They built a railing for my dad after one of his friends fell on his front steps.

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  • Daisy4U
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    edited June 16

    Hi @Grenah, your experience, like so many, is heartbreaking. My mother also lost all interest in the things she used to enjoy. That includes participating in any community or enrichment programs. I was her sole, 24/7, live-in caregiver for 14 years of this horrible diseases progression, and can empathize fully with your journey. Sometimes, I feel I am her sole source of entertainment. I am not funny, so no pressure!

    My mom lost the ability to walk and use her hands in March after a short hospitalization. And no one can explain why. Caregiving-wise, it was like falling off a cliff. Up until then, she could at least use her walker, which meant she had a little independence. Meeting her needs at home became impossible due to the heavy lifting as she became bedridden. She constantly wanted to get out of bed, risking another fall, and I wasn't able to lift her. She needed two PSWs to move her. She transitioned to an LTC in April, which addressed that issue, but created a slew of new challenges. I spend most days with her, which involves a lot of driving. The mental caregiving is still 24/7 as its hard to relax and shut one's mind down after such intensive caregiving. People say give it time, but I don't know….right now, I am in a the tunnel.

    Appreciate everyone's listening and understanding.
    Best strength for the journey.

  • Daisy4U
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    edited June 16

    Hi @JulietteBee, you might also want to look into whether there's a local caregiving charity in your area that offers respite hours. I was told I qualified for 16 hours per month by the health organization that diagnosed the severity of my mom's VD. The hours could be organized in any way I wanted, in 8 hour blocks or in shorter periods. I chose 4 hours 1 day a week. They sent a PSW to sit and look after my mom during the respite period. While I only got to use it for a few weeks before my mom transitioned to LTC, it was so helpful. As you're a reader, I also recommend the book "The Second Parenting" by Rutha Powers, for those providing eldercare. It shows how to guard your heart and maintain your "sanity" as you navigate this difficult caregiving journey.

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DH = Dear Husband
DW= Dear Wife, Darling Wife
LO = Loved One
ES = Early Stage
EO = Early Onset
FTD = Frontotemporal Dementia
VD = Vascular Dementia
MC = Memory Care
AL = Assisted Living
POA = Power of Attorney
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