Appt with CELA tomorrow

notequipped
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Our long awaited appointment with a Certified Elder Law Attorney is tomorrow. I have not discussed this with my Mom at all. I paid the required deposit for the consultation. She will no doubt balk at the idea - doesn’t need an attorney, too expensive, etc. I think that I will be able to reason with her regarding the will and any documents needed for medical purposes. I have no idea how she will feel about DPOA. What I do know is that I can no longer live like this (I have a very technical job and work from home. My husband owns a very demanding business. Our lives are anything but normal.) and am willing to do whatever it takes to get her into a MC facility. My question is, do I attempt to discuss the DPOA ahead of time with her or just let the lawyer handle that? I believe that she will sign a DPOA but if she doesn’t, then we need to go the guardianship route?? Has anyone gone through that process?

Any thoughts/ideas about how to handle this welcome and appreciated.

Brain MRI is scheduled for Friday. Still need to get the neuro psych evaluation scheduled. Trying to give my myself tangible, objective evidence that this is the right thing to do, the right time to do it and get everything lined up to make the transition as smooth as possible.

My mind is so preoccupied that I backed into the garage door last night. Once the legal bit is sorted, I’m considering a respite care stay for her and some time off of work for me to tour facilities.

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  • H1235
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    When we visited the lawyer mom had just been diagnosed. The doctor suggested she see a lawyer as soon as possible before things get too bad. Mom didn’t understand the need to rush and was annoyed I had set things up so soon. The lawyer reassured mom that the DPOA does not take away her ability to make financial decisions it just gives me the ability to make decisions too. This helped convince her. Of course it was not long after the papers were signed that I had to take away her access to money. I would not mention mc or any of your plans. She is just not going to understand the need. Mom didn’t think that the DPOA was going to change anything. She saw herself as being perfectly capable of managing things herself. I have found that my mom alway takes suggestions and recommendations from a professional (doctor, lawyer) better than if I make the suggestion, so you might want to just let the lawyer bring it up. If necessary suggest it will be something you may need down the road and it won’t hurt. I find with mom that if I push too much, she pushes back and gets angry and defiant. If you have any questions for the lawyer that you think your mom might be confused or even upset by, I should make a separate appointment and deal with that later. I think respite care and some time to tour facilities is a good idea. At one point early on in the craziness I was filling out some paperwork. I was so stressed I didn’t even know my own phone number and had to actually called my husband to ask him. I probably shouldn’t have been driving that day. I hope you can find a good facility that has an opening soon.

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  • Emily 123
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    I agree with ARIL that presenting it as organizing things in case of an emergency lets you present it like you're asking instead of telling, which tends to go over better.

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    Still fretting about the appointment tomorrow. Steadily making progress though, I was able to schedule the first appointment for the neuro psych evaluation. It will be such a relief when I feel like a I’ve done all the things that I need to do to really know that this is the right move and everything in place to do so. There are no words to describe how much I dislike being in this position.

  • H1235
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    The beginning part of this journey is so difficult. My mom had neglected every aspect of her life before she was finally diagnosed. Her glasses were held together with tape, she hadn’t been to a hairdresser in 6 months, her cpap broke 10 years ago but she refused to get a new one, she had lost weight and had almost nothing that fit her, she hadn’t seen a dentist in ages and her front tooth had a big chip in it, her house was a disaster, she needed to see a lawyer, the diagnosis required visits for imaging bloodwork and different specialist, my brother was oblivious and did almost nothing to help, I could go on and on. I was so incredibly busy. She did not want me to help her with anything and was angry with me all the time. I honestly don’t know how I did it. I had no idea what I’m doing (every obstacle is something new I have to learn how to navigate). I’m so thankful for the people here who have helped me. The pressure and responsibility are overwhelming. The work load has lightened now that she is settled, but the pressures is still there. You will get through this. You can do it!

  • harshedbuzz
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    @notequipped

    Thinking of you today. I hope things go better than you expect.

    HB

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    It went OKish. I was kind of hoping that paperwork would be signed same day but that didn’t happen. We have to go back for her to sign everything. She seemed mostly OK with the idea of POA. Didn’t like the idea of a trust (honestly, I don’t care.). I may try to read up on it before our next appointment. The thing that has me almost in tears is that when the discussion of LTC/AL came up, which she was on board with at her last PCP appointment - oh, no, I want to stay at your house. I bet you do but that’s not going to happen. I would like to have my life back. This may be TMI but to say that I didn’t exactly have an idyllic childhood would be an understatement. My husband and I had considered having her live with us early on. She has been here since late February and it has turned into a hard NO from both of us. I can’t live with her in my space and putting her away in a room/area of her own seems isolating and cruel. Alzheimer’s is taking her life - I’ll be d@mned if it’s going to take mine, too. Given her change of heart, I don’t think that my idea of a planned respite care stay is going to work. I absolutely loathe the idea of bringing someone into my home to watch her so that I can go tour LTC facilities. No idea how I’m going to be able to find suitable accomodation for her. Are there reputable people/companies that will find a MC facility that meet criteria that you establish for you for a fee??

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    Im glad it went ok. You may want to ask about a prepaid funeral. This just assures that if money were to be depleted, final costs would not need to come out of your pocket. You might try bringing her to an adult day care or senior center for the day while you find a mc facility.

  • Victoriaredux
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    "Are there reputable people/companies that will find a MC facility that meet criteria that you establish for you for a fee??" Yes a geriatric case manager or professional conservator will be familiar with local homes.

    The elder law attorney probably knows of some they have worked with in the past.

    Two visits - usually a few weeks apart is fairly standard . It provides the lawyer with documentation the LO was aware , to the degree they are, and consistent in their wishes should issues arise later.

    A living trust is usually much easier to manage during and after the person's life time . Check if that avoids probate(it should) -another headache avoided.

    On respite- a fib you are going to a foreign country for work/help a sick friend and can't get her a visa in time? City is tearing up the street sewers at your house —then she goes to a respite MC/AL and stays there or goes to your home of choice -with no return to your house may work.

Commonly Used Abbreviations


DH = Dear Husband
DW= Dear Wife, Darling Wife
LO = Loved One
ES = Early Stage
EO = Early Onset
FTD = Frontotemporal Dementia
VD = Vascular Dementia
MC = Memory Care
AL = Assisted Living
POA = Power of Attorney
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