Advice on Home Care, plus the Dreaded Question...
I’m new here and so grateful I found this site filled with amazing stories, compassion, helpful information, love and support. It’s a wonderful community navigating a difficult journey…
I too, am on the journey. My DW is likely stage 4 and becoming less verbal, more withdrawn, and lost interest in cooking. She needs reminders/help with personal care and occasional incontinence began seven months ago. She enjoys reading, but is less active. We walk at stores or sometimes outside, but overall not much physical activity. I’m not a great cook and getting concerned about nutrition, since we have a narrow repetitive meal routine.
Some family members have recommend home care help and I spoke with two so far. One is highly rated, seems to have an experienced responsive main person with a heartfelt passion to help, does background checks on staff, provides an on-line daily report journal, and offering a free home visit. They seem like a premier company with a cost ~10% higher than the other company. The first company requires 12 hours/wk minimum and recommends starting two days with 10-4 shifts.
The cost is more than expected and something I’d have to adjust to, but I could afford it. I don’t think my UHC MA policy provides any benefit, but they may have some 8 hours/mo support. Maybe I could get PT or OT to provide some help, but not sure if that’s good and then I’m coordinating amongst multiple agencies and involving multiple people in our home.
I feel having someone in our home 12 hours every week would be intrusive, but assistance with meals, physical, and social stimulation would helpful. I’m looking for comments, recommendations, and advice on how to navigate this, how to start, and how much time is appropriate.
Also, some neighbors, friends, and family are asking the question I’ve come to dread: “How’s DW?” I KNOW they are well meaning, but I find this VERY HARD to answer. Many people, including myself, don’t fully understand what is happening, the outlook, or how someone is really doing. How does one respond to this question without violating privacy, making your LO look bad, or having others needlessly worry?
Sorry for the long post, but look forward to your comments…
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Hello Allen, sorry you have to be here. It's a very good place for advice. Your last question, when asked I usually responded "She's on a down hill slope and some days are better than others." Usually that's plenty. Usually it's asked as a polite question and people really do not want to know the details. Rick
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I agree with Rick as he says people are just trying to be polite and really don’t want to know the true facts. They also tell me that if I need anything just let them know hoping that I say that’s ok I got it. When they ask me how it is going, I just tell them that we are doing as good as we can considering the journey we are on. Don’t get me wrong I do have people in my circle that have stepped up to help but they are a small percentage. Stay with us and we will get through our journeys together.
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Hi @Alan4HER
Welcome! Glad you found this site; just sorry you have to be here.
I called my local Agency on Aging and am waiting to receive a phone call back from them to do an assessment. (Another name could be Elder Affairs - you can look them up for your area). I understand they can connect you with resources and may also be able to talk with you about agencies ‘requiring’ a certain amount of hours per week. I don’t like that tactic.
And there is a program called GUIDE that will cover in-home care expenses up to a certain amount for Medicare recipients. Ask them about that. And finally ask about legal services if you haven’t taken care of durable power of attorney, healthcare surrigagte, advanced directives, will/trust, and the like.
Check back with us and let us know how you are doing. We care.
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Hi, Alan, and welcome to the forum. I'm sorry you need to be here but since you do, it is a good place to come to get help, support, and answers that come from experience. First of all, if you haven't done so already, you need to contact a certified elderlaw attorney. That person can guide you on what you need to do to protect your assets and help you with a durable power of attorney for finances and healthcare. If you can't find one, look on nelf.org. As jgreen talked about, call your local Area Agency on Aging. They were a tremendous help to me when my DH was still at home. And there was no charge for their services. They provided us with caregivers who came to the house and a shower aide. As to how to answer the question of how she is doing or how things are going. My stock answers are, "He is doing as well as he can"; "A day at a time we get by."; and "We/I are/am hanging in." Then I smile and let it go at that. There are a couple of dear friends who I can talk honestly with but otherwise this forum is my main support. Come here often and ask all your questions. We are here for you and for each other.
Brenda
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When I get the "how is she doing?" question from well meaning people who are not regularly involved in care or visitation, my go to answer is : "The disease is doing what it does…"
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Welcome, initially it can seem intrusive to have home help. Since nutrition and meal planning is a concern for you , you might want to have the home help staff prep and make some meals. It can take a bit of pressure off you. Our agency doesn’t have a weekly minimum, but they do have a 4 hour minimum per visit. When people ask how he is doing , I say “doing ok with the expected decline”. I think they really just want to be polite but can’t handle nitty gritty truth .
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Welcome. Since meals are a concern, you might consider having someone come in strictly to cook, clean and shop. Then have someone else come in for caregiving. This might be less expensive and your help would be specialized for the needed tasks.
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Hey Alan, couple things. As for cooking/food in general I rely almost entirely on SHIPT for grocery shopping. Look for prepared meals to heat up. Even frozen meals. I wouldn’t worry about the nutritional value at this time. Also there’s very easy crock pot recipes. On getting help I’ve had good luck using Care.com. They do background checks and help is cheaper since there’s no overhead. I’ve had my current helper for almost a year now and consider her part of the family. As for people asking about your DW, yeah- they don’t really want to know. If they did they’d stop by to visit. Welcome to a new world where you get to learn more about people than you ever thought
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There are chef curated meals through companies such as Factor that will ship meals to your home that can be heated in the microwave or oven. Meals are already fully prepared and frozen. They offer excellent meals with options for vegetarian or plant based meals if desired. Before you bring anyone in your home for care, lock up all valuables. We had jewelry stolen out of a relatives home.
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Wow - I'm encouraged by everyone's quick, valuable, and practical ideas on my situation. I do have my legal issues in order and created envelopes by the door and in the cars with medical history, ID, insurance, RX, and MPOA info. I've read about additional comments to add to those.
I'll check out care.com and the various meal recommendations. The comment about jewelry and safety are helpful and something I hadn't thought about. I have a call with one home care company scheduled for this week and a tentative visit next week, but I'll call the Agency on Aging to get more recommendations. I ordered the 36 hour day from the library, too.
Looking back, I think I've kept myself busy with many other projects, which perhaps has been some denial or avoidance. However, your recommendations and the many posts I read have provided confidence and motivation to move forward. Thank you!
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Welcome @Alan4HER. This forum does not disappoint, as you can see by the wealth of good information you have received here. In home care is the logical next step for you so you don’t get burned out.
My journey with my DH is over, but one thing I wish I had done early on is contact the Area Agency on Aging, as many have mentioned here. I didn’t know about all the resources they can provide.
Personally I started with a companion caregiver for DH for two days a week, 2 hours each day. The cost per hour goes up when you only do 2 or 3 hour shifts, but I was concerned about what that person would be able to do with DH to fill the time (he was in a later stage than your wife, so his activities were very limited). I would have had a hard time having a person from 10-4 to start off. In my opinion, find an agency that allows shorter visits of 2-4 hours and see how your DH responds and how comfortable you are. Best of luck and keep coming back to this forum. It is a lifesaver!3 -
if your DW is not on Medicare, file for disability. There is a waiting period but it might be waived for Dementia. Then she can get on Medicare. There is the GUIDE program on Medicare you may be able to get help from. I started with 4 hrs per week of respite care. I could run errands and go to my doctor appointments. I also got maid service to clean every 2 weeks. Read the book “The 36 Hour Day” and search online for Dementia caregiving videos by Tam Cummings or Teepa Snow. They are very helpful.
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Thank you for mentioning Factor for prepared, frozen meals. I came here today to ask for recommendations for exactly this. My husband doesn’t like leftovers, prefers to be able to pick from frozen meals on hand that he can simply microwave. Factor sounds like it’ll make meals easier for him and me. Thx again!
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Hi Alan4Her,
My DW has many of the signs of stage 4, but she hasn't been incontinent. We have an in-home caregiver who comes three times a week for 3-hour shifts. She has been a Godsend for my wife and me for several reasons. First, she's a trained professional who knows which activities will stimulate my wife physically and cognitively. Second, she does light housekeeping that my wife can no longer do and that I don't always have time for. Third, those visits give me time for self-care, which is important for all caregivers. It is stressful to deal with my DWs emotional outbursts, even though by the next day she will have forgotten being upset. I am fortunate to still be working full-time and to be able to work remotely and to be able to afford the costs of an in-home caregiver. I think having someone come in a few times a week, even if it's not for 12 hours, is something you should consider.
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