Durable Medical Equipment
Hello to all. I had to take a break for a few weeks. Was at my wits end! I think I am a bit better at adjusting to the ‘new normal’.
I have a question for those who are caring for LOs at home and brought in hospital bed, wheelchair, bedside commode, lift, etc. When did you know it was time?
I believe DH is entering stage 6 as he needs assistance standing, walking, and I am now pretty much hand feeding him as he will not eat on his own anymore. He’s also lost about 15 pounds this past 3 months.
We adjusted his Seroquel about a week ago and I expected that he would be sleepy/groggy for a few days, but it has been over a week now. Hallucinations milder so I am thankful for that, and don’t want to reduce the new dosage. Luckily our adult son lives at home and he can help me, but lifting DH from chair or bed is difficult and I am worried that we may hurt our own backs in the process! We used an office chair with wheels to move DH from living room to bedroom last 2 nights, and getting him into the chair and then out of the chair into bed was a trip!!!! I did help him to the bathroom this morning and noticed DH got short of breath just walking that short distance. I think he is scared of falling, but also I believe the exertion is a contributing factor.
I posted a note to his PCP on the portal this morning. In the meantime I wanted some input from you about when you made that decision to get some equipment. I do know that medicare covers rental when ordered by a physician.
Thanks for your advice and support. You are a wonderful group and I am so grateful that I found this site a year ago.
~J
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hi! You might want to get a hospice evaluation and they would get the DME for you. They are a wonderful resource covered by Medicare.
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From this description it seems to me that he is in Stage 7. Have you tried having him evaluated for hospice? I didn’t have experience with them but I thought they supplied much of that, in addition to caregiving help. Many have posted that even in stage 6 they were approved.
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Hi. It's very difficult to make all these adjustments, but it definitely sounds like it's time to me. I'd recommend getting a PT/OT evaluation to help find the right solutions for you. We made gradual changes until my mother lost all ability to walk. Currently she can still bear weight so we use a sit to stand for all transfers and a wheelchair. This keeps her safe, prevents falls and we don't injure ourselves.
My advice is to get the equipment in place now to prevent any issues.
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I agree with this recommendation for a hospice eval. They’ll take care of all the equipment issues along with much more specific support care. It’s time.
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Hi, All. I want to give you an update:
Doctor’s office called me early Monday morning and scheduled an office visit for Wednesday. They didn’t say why but I guess he needed to assess DH before ordering any durable medical equipment.
We made the appointment and met with his primary physician (DH usually seen first by the nurse practitioner). That told me that the doctor took my message seriously. After examining DH, asking questions my DH was slow to answer and seeing for himself how much DH had deteriorated since last visit, the doctor turned to me and said “do you think it is time to consider hospice?” I thought I was prepared after reading some of your responses, but got weepy just the same. I finally felt that the doctor heard me and could see/understand what I’ve been going through!
He had the receptionist call hospice with a referral right away and an ‘intake’ nurse came out that very afternoon. We have hospital bed, bedside commode, shower chair, wheelchair, and oxygen being delivered on Monday (so son and I can make room for all the equipment). Son picked up a ‘comfort kit’ from pharmacy and we have meds on hand for emergencies - morphine solution, an anti anxiety med, stool softeners, and a medicine to put under the tongue when DH is unable to swallow to dry up mouth secretions.
Yesterday I met with the nurse case manager who will check on us weekly, will meet with a social worker today to learn about their services, have a male aide coming next Thursday to help with a shower, and expect a call from music therapy to schedule a visit. There are also hospice volunteers who will come and sit with DH so I can get away for an hour, maybe two. I am going to get settled with everything’s before I ask for a volunteer, but I do plan to use that help as well.
I feel relieved, validated, and supported! And I wanted to share with those of you who may be considering hospice. The intake nurse made it clear that they are not home health care and will not come every time I ask for help getting DH out of bed, or any other activities of daily living. But they can teach me how to do these things. For me - the support and ability to call them 24/7 if I have questions, or in an emergency a team can come out to help me.
I have two documents to share. The first is the FAST scale that they use to determine if the patient is qualified for hospice. DH is stage 6c on this scale. I feel that the physician’s order for hospice was the reason DH was approved as the hospice guidelines state the patient needs to be greater than stage 7 on the scale. This is the next document I am sharing
Each hospice is different and some may accept patients who are in stage 6 and others might be more strict. It never hurts to have an assessment. And if you are at the point where I was, get an appointment with your primary care doctor and have that conversation. As I said, I think our doctor’s orders is what got DH in.
I’ve last thing before I close - hospice is ‘end of life’ care. I signed a do not resuscitate (DNR) form and I also agreed to turn over all medical care to the hospice team. DH is still somewhat ambulatory, still eating some, still communicating with my son and me; he is not actively dying and may not be for a good while. If you decide to go this route, please do so knowing that your LO will no longer be medically managed, but will receive care that provides comfort measures. You can always go off hospice if that is too much. I am at peace with my decision and will keep you all posted on how we are doing. Thanks to all who read my post, and to those who responded so caringly.
~J
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That's great news! ❤️
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jgreen,
I’m glad you’re getting all that support. ❤️
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Thank you for sharing the details of hospice. It’s good to hear that you’re getting so much support. ❤️
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I am so glad this worked out for you! Thanks so much for providing the update. It sounds like you made a great decision. That is so much support you can count on.
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Good for you and your family. Too many on this site, in my opinion, wait too long before bringing hospice in. Maybe your experience will help others make the decision easier.
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Thank you so much for this post. You gave me a picture of what this might look like and ideas on what to do going forward.
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You are welcomed, @Goodlife2025 If I can help one then that makes me feel good.
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such a relief for you! I have felt that same way every time I’ve had to use hospice. As if the Calvary has arrived and I can breathe again.
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