Move now or later
My DH is 75 and was very recently diagnosed with AD. He is in early stage, but we live in a forest with a 5 mile gravel road to the nearest city. His doctors are 45 minutes away. I'm a little older and not in the best of health either. He has always been the driver. Now I worry about living so far out with an uncertain future with my DH. But he does not want to leave. So my question is whether I should stay as long as possible, getting someone to come in and help out when/if needed, or move soon while he is able to help. If he only has a limited number of good years left, how can I take him away from his friends, his shop, his yard. These are the things that give him pleasure. He would hate moving. I'm just torn. Thoughts?
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Welcome. At some point the shop will not be safe for him. He probably won’t recognize that it’s not safe and will believe he is perfectly capable. Having his shop rights there and not allowing him to use it is going to be very very difficult for both of you. How would you even stop him if running the chainsaw when it becomes too dangerous and he won’t listen. A clean break from all those reminders of things he used to be able to do but can’t, may be kinder. My mom wanted to pull weeds in the garden, reupholster the couch, paint the garage. It was a constant battle. She was very angry when we moved her to Al, but she soon stop ruminating over all these things she couldn’t do. I know this is different (and so much more difficult) being it’s your husband. Your husband, even if he seems like he is getting along ok, is probably not able to process all that needs to be considered in this situation. My husband and I live in a very rural location and I’ve often thought there is no way I could maintain everything and be so far away from everything. In my opinion, you have a rough road ahead, you should be in a setting where you feel comfortable. If you have lived there a while a move is going to be a LOT of work (I’m picturing all that my husband and I have accumulated over the years). You don’t want to have to do it in a rush while also dealing with a husband that needs your attention 24/7. I will add a few resources that might be useful if you haven’t seen them yet.
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This is always a difficult decision. I would move now while your husband does not need your assistance 24/7 or is immobile. Many on this site have moved to where they see themselves living after stage 8. It’s something to think about.
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A hard decision. If your.husband is happy where you live and if you are, moving would be hard on both.of you. I have always thought it best to not change things unless or until absolutely.necessaty.on
My.husband had vascular dementia and we lived 25 miles from our VA.Hospitsl. We didn't even consider moving. Neither of us would have been happy. Letting them be happy and able to continue living and doing what he loves is important. I think you can figure out what to.do with his shop when it becomes necessary. Let him enjoy his life while he can. Just my opinion and what we did. Only you and he can know what is best for both of you. Good luck in making your decision.
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It is true only you can make the ultimate decision. Things to consider: if he is still driving, he will need to stop soon. Can you drive to all appts and what happens when you can't? Are there services to come give assistance at your rural location, drs, nurses, aides? I decided to move us across the country before my husband became incontinent, wheelchair bound, wandered or no longer recognized me. Was it hard?Extremely hard but the best thing for both of us. Lots for you to consider but do think of what's best FOR BOTH OF YOU. He will decline, it will get harder and pls prioritize your needs and what will be best for you in the later stages of this disease. Best of luck to you, there is no right answer for everyone. You need to consider now and later and it's your decision to make.
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RetiredTeacher really summed it all up. The standard answer to your question is to ask yourself where do YOU want to be when he is no longer with you. Within a very short time he will not be able to use his shop, his friends will most likely stop visiting him, you will be doing all the driving because very soon he will not be driving. Moving when your DH is in stage 4+ would be a nightmare for both of you. I wish you well in making this big decision.
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That is exactly why we moved. We lived on a 25 acre horse farm and it was getting hard for my DH to even cut the grass without getting the lawn mower stuck on something. I’m so glad we did move because we couldn’t go through that now with him progressing more everyday. Plus moving in itself is exhausting.
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I wish I had made the house more ready to move when I was more able, I doubt I would have moved.
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A big difficult decision. We moved 450klms from our home of 25 years 4 1/2 years ago. I was 72, DH with VD and aphasia was 74, we also downsized. It took its toll initially, we didn’t want to move, but now I am so glad we did.
You need two things
1. A reason to move; and
2. Somewhere to go
To make the transition smooth you both need to be on the same page. I think that’s the main thing to work on while you can. Discuss the pros and cons together write them in a book for later reference. I do agree with Lolita being somewhere where you are happy is important but being practical is sensible. Good luck.
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@barclays
IMO, there are 2 pieces to this. The first is you figuring out where you want to be in "stage 8" after he's passed. If, like Lorita, you can't imagine living out your life elsewhere, then you might look to do what's needed to safely age-in-place. Another option might be to rent the property with the intention of returning later and using the proceeds to rent or buy elsewhere.
The second is whether it is possible for you maintain the property on your own. At some point soon (possibly already), you will be 100% responsible for every aspect of running the household in terms of maintaining the home, handling the financial pieces, and taking care of those in the house. If you have the means, you might be able to hire out things like home repair, lawn care, etc. assuming your DH isn't one of those MWD (men with dementia) who thinks he can still do it all and interferes with you doing this.
IME, having moved my own parents (dad had dementia), a PWD can't really participate fully in the process of moving. By the time an individual is diagnosed, their empathy and executive function are impaired and reasoning for moving may be beyond them. He might not have the reasoning skills to help you decide on a new place or physically assist in the process.
I would not be concerned about being close to his doctors unless he is doing infusions and follow-ups. If you want to move, this could be a way to sell the idea to your DH.
I would be concerned about medical care for you. Caregiving is stressful and often has an impact on the health of the caregiver. I would be concerned about DH having access to a shop with power tools, firearms, cars and lawn equipment.
I would not be overly concerned about friends. IME, almost all friends fade into the background by the middle stages of this disease. PWD can be hard to connect with, some lose their social filters and friends typically find it hard to maintain the friendship.
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Thank you so much for your comments and the links you sent.
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I finally had a chance to come back and read all the wonderful comments you all have made. Thank you all so much!!
I talked with my DH and we agreed that when he can no longer drive, we will move so that I can be closer to things and able to do all the driving. We are currently in the review process to see if he will be able to get the infusions (every other week) to help extend the early phase of the disease. He has finished all the testing required, so now it is just waiting for the review board and insurance to give the final approval. Since he has a dominant knee replacement in a few weeks, I will be doing all the driving for his PT, etc., so he probably won't start the infusions until late December at the earliest.
To be honest, I'm overwhelmed. But he agreed we will spend next year getting our house ready for sale, including donating his tools. So, as much as it will be sad for both of us to leave this house, we know it is necessary and will do it while he is able to help me. I have always done all the financial stuff and the daily household activities. But he has always done the driving and taken care of our cars and household repairs, the yard, etc. It will definitely be an adjustment for me to deal with it all. I haven't been on my own since I was in college and now I'm 78! I worry that when we move, he won't have anything to do with his time. And, I fear that he will get depressed and that will make him decline even faster. Any thoughts on that?
Thanks again for all your help!
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@barclays
Therapeutic lies, aka "fiblets", are how most caregivers manage to make the changes they need to make to keep their LO safe. You are being gifted a couple of great options you can build on. If you want to move, using the "I want you to get the best care possible and be near the doctors" is one way to position the move so that it's not based on him being unable to maintain the home. And the TKR could be used going forward as an excuse to keep him off ladders and driving if you can get a male PT to prescribe this as a "not for a while" activity.
Sometimes a PWD will agree to something like a move or giving up driving at some future point and then insist they didn't when the time comes. Sometimes the forget because of short term memory deficits. Sometimes, anosognosia creeps in and they are unable to perceive their impairments and deny needing to move forward with the original plan. In a year, he might not make it easy to move ahead with the plan.
I know you didn't ask, but because you brought it up.
TKR is not a minor procedure. Two concerns which might not apply here but are worth asking about— what sort of anesthesia will be used and is this an inpatient procedure. There still seems to be quite a bit of variation around this particular procedure. Mom had both her knees done in the hospital as an inpatient with a 2-day stay because of other health concerns. I had my first knee done at a free-standing orthopedic clinic (like a hospital but no ED)— it was "ambulatory" but there was an overnight stay months after mom's second knee with the same surgeon. The second knee was truly same-day with surgery at 1pm and home on my own sofa by 4:30pm. Hospital stays can induce delirium in PWD; even mom (no dementia) had considerable agitation with her second and she's normally the model-patient. If he does stay overnight, you might plan to stay with him.
Most docs use a regional anesthesia with sedation which isn't too huge a burden on the brain. Ask if this can be the case. General anesthesia can cause progression in some people that sometimes results in a lower functioning baseline than prior. Make sure the surgeon and anesthesiologist are aware of the diagnosis.
The standard for PT is currently 2-3 months post-surgery. Most folks I know are doing 3x weekly the first 4-6 weeks and 2x weekly for another 4-6 weeks. He'll have exercises to do at home during this time and beyond. Assuming he's cooperative, this could be something you segue into a new hobby for both of you.
Depression is pretty common in PWD. Emotional intelligence (the ability to intuit how others feel about them) and feelings remain well into the end stages of the disease and processing or rationalizing those feelings iisn't really possible anymore which leads to depression as their world becomes smaller. In some people, men especially, depression looks like irritability. Medication can be really helpful with this.
IME, the rate of progression seems to be different for each PWD. I don't know that depression impacts the rate. That's a good question for his doctors.
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in regards to moving, when my DW was diagnosed with YOAD back in 2022, we lived on a couple of acres in Minnesota. It was easily a good hour or two a day just keeping the property up. Not a problem for us at that time. When her disease started to progress, we made the decision to move across the country to California to be closer to her whole family. When deciding on the new house we would buy, I made it clear to the realtor that I wanted an almost maintenance free yard. I let my DW decide on the interior layout. Even though we have a very small yard, I’m glad we made the move early. This gave me the time to care for my DW and also take on the new house responsibilities of cooking, washing, cleaning and banking. Plus I was able to get some limited help from her family. Whatever you decide, it is your decision and you know what’s best for you and caring for your DH.
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