Recycling the same conflicts
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Hello Artworker
Glad you found this site and sorry you have a reason to. You will get advice and a place to vent here.
I'm certainly not a doc but I don't believe the memantine will do much for the rants. I know it did not for my DW. We eventually were prescribed anxiety meds that actually did help. It took quite a while of trial and error. Our Neurologist wasn't very much help and said pretty much the same thing yours did. In fairness to the Docs they usually start with small doses and wait to see if they help before moving the dose up or combining meds. It takes what feels like forever to get it sorted out.
The early stages were rough for us also. I think DW was confused a lot, made her anxious which made her moody and argumentative. It also took me a while to figure out my issues with it and react better to her out bursts. It sounds to me like you are a head of where I was at that time.
You'll get better advice then mine on here so hang in there you are not alone. People here are very knowledgeable and supportive.
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As my DW progressed through the stages, I found out that I had no reason to continue visits with the neurologist. We only go to the PCP when she has like a UTI. I’ve also stopped all tests like mammograms and colonoscopy’s. At this point I am just keeping my DW safe and comfortable and letting nature take it course. The one medical professional that I do utilize is her Psychiatrist for her anxiety needs.
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Is their Pyschiatrist helpful?
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My Mom hasn't been diagnosed with Alzheimers but her Neurologist said it may be Alzheimers. They gave her a memory med and seroquel. She has had many tests in the past 3 months. So far nothing has helped much. She seems to be getting worse. This has been a no win situation and its a struggle for me to get though the day. My elderly dad has been sick also but his memory is good. Its very hard to live with them now. I feel like my life is over and there is no way out. Good luck with everything.
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Yes he has found the right mixtures of prescriptions that keep my DW stable with no side effects for her. As long as this combination works, I will check in on him every 6 months or as needed.
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I'm with blacksparky.
You're at the place of needing medications for anxieties, depression and dementia-related behaviors, so a psychiatrist, and a geriatric one if you can find one, is likely going to be your best source of help.
I should add…I found our geriatric psychiatrist much more responsive and available than any other doctors. I could often get a quick 15 minute appointment to discuss changes in behaviors and potential changes to meds.
Hang in there.
Cindy
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@Artworker Welcome - guess you've figured out by now the art studio isn't a physical issue that a clever remodel can fix but struggles your DW is having in trying to get her brain to handle the whole process of painting .
You may want to look at Naomi Feil's validation videos . It's a process but can help with the emotions involved as she struggles to "see" how to paint when it isn't the room, the windows, etc but her brain not able to organize her set-up to paint. And that hobby may be behind her now.
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From an AI summary :Naomi Feil’s Validation Therapy helps caregivers connect with disoriented older adults by stepping into their emotional reality instead of forcing them into factual correctness. When an older adult struggles with a hobby or a past routine they can no longer perform, it usually reflects a deeper, unexpressed emotional need—such as the desire to feel useful, productive, or independent.
Why Hobbies Become a Struggle
- Loss of Equilibrium: Declining physical strength, vision, or memory makes it hard to complete familiar tasks.
- Unexpressed Emotions: Frustration over not being able to do a hobby often masks deeper feelings of grief, uselessness, or fear.
- Unfinished Business: The person may cling to the idea of a project or task to feel a sense of status and identity.
How to Use Validation
- Acknowledge the Feeling: Instead of saying "you can't do that anymore," validate the emotion behind the attempt (e.g., "You really loved building things, didn't you?").
- Focus on the Process, Not the Product: Let them hold a tool or material for tactile stimulation even if they cannot complete the traditional hobby.
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Maybe other crafts - fancy coloring books , threading beads for necklaces etc or even just asking her to help with folding socks or napkins can give her a feeling of accomplishment . I wish you luck .
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When you have these discussions about a room to paint in, how does that go. So often we try to reason with and discuss things using logic, much like you would have in years past. If she forgets the conversation rather quickly, could you agree with her, no matter how unreasonable her demands are. If she wants to put an addition on the house to make an art studio, why not go along with it and support her idea if she is going to forget the entire conversation anyway. Explaining to her why you can’t move, remodel, or renovate is not going to work. Many caregivers find their loved one with dementia are extremely demanding. I think part of it might be trying to exert some control, since they have lost so much. My mom has always loved crafts and sewing. Any projects she is able to do she scoffs at and considers it beneath her. The complicated projects she wants to work on are way more than she can handle. When she is faced with her own limitations she usually blames me for not getting her the right supplies. I often use a fib. I tell her I can’t find the materials she wants, or make some other excuse. It’s a no win situation.
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Good morning ArtWorker,
In addition to VictoriaRedux good perspective and advice above I'd also suggest that your DW's repeated behavior with trying to find a "studio space" in your home is also all about her brain trying it's hardest to keep some kind of control over her personal space. I know in the case of my LO we went through a stage where when it came to household projects or changes if I said something was "black", she said it was "white". She would come up with "solutions" that made no practical or economic sense and then get very, very angry with me for not supporting her decisions. And. . . we would have these same discussions over, and over, and over again with no resolution. I was frustrated and really at my wits end when one day it dawned on me that it really wasn't about the project itself but about her brain trying so hard to conclude that she still had some autonomy and control over our household projects and planning.
I'm not going to tell you I found a solution to this. I'm not sure I did. For one major project I finally just had to move on with it, get a contractor, get a schematic, get a quote, and a plan put together of the work and then move on through her anger with me. In the end once she could see a schematic on paper of what was going to happen she totally forgot that she was not in control, accepted what was on the paper as "the plan" and once the project was done it was done in her mind as well.
No, what the realization that her brain was endlessly just trying to feel like it still and autonomy and control did for me is that I stopped taking her repeated changes, irrational ideas and concepts personally and realized how hard her brain was trying to be "normal". I couldn't fix that for her - I could only fix it for myself and know that she might continue to be difficult - but that I could go ahead and move ahead with out feeling angry or guilty.
I realize that this might not be helpful for you in your situation when you can't just "go ahead" and build her a studio space. But maybe it's not really the need for a studio space that is important? Maybe along with support from appropriate medications as VictoriaRedux suggested it's the continued search for the studio space that is important to support for her rather than the end result of the building the space itself? Maybe it's the process rather than the end result that she needs? Just some questions that I would ask myself if it were my LO in this situation.
I send you my best thoughts and wishes - I know this is difficult and everyone' situation is different.
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I hear you,
We closed my DW's studio this month. House now looks like a hoarder of art work and supplies…and we had left most of the furniture there. She hadn't gone to the studio since May, when i pulled the car keys from her, knowing that she could no longer safely drive. She now uses every room in the house for doing art, and constantly brings even the smallest design or drawing for me to see and comment on and approve. I can not get anything done. She is probably around stage 4/5.
Its the delusions though, that get to me: She wants to go out most afternoons to either sell her art to someone that she says she has an appointment with, or to teach "children, who are waiting for her." Deflecting doesn't work anymore. I cannot let her go out that door…she is confused regarding time and place, and aside from art, other objects and activities confuse her, and she is at a fall risk. Meds help, but it usually devolves into her getting angry at me. Fortunately, she forgets that this happens.
I fear that a Memory Care facility is the next step, and that she would decline rapidly without her art stuff. i also feel that this constant behavior is affecting my health. She has always been my favorite person and this is so hard. Just know that people in these discussion groups share similar concerns and frequently do have that helpful solution…or at least we are all searching for it with a lot of trial and error. Its hard not to be hard on ourselves though, eh.
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Thank you - I will check it out. I am trying now to simply set out her materials on tables to enable her to start painting instead of searching for a place to paint. We have not consulted a geriatric psychiatrist but that seems like a good idea
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Thank you for that stananon - DW identifies as an artist at her core and she is caught in loop of wanting - no deserving a studio space worthy of a serious artist. No space in our house is worthy. She wants me to help her find a solution when it can't be solved. I'm going to set up her materials in different parts of the house and see if she can work there. I know what you mean about this taking so much of your attention - I feel like I am constantly responding to her needs and moods and I'm not doing anything I want to do anymore
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If she uses potentially dangerous items - turpentine, or solvents - for example- don't count on her NOT grabbing it for a drink. A hidden camera may help but it just takes a second.
Are there MC day programs near you that have art included, maybe you can sign her up there so they can share her expertise and you'll get some free time.4 -
This is absolutely true. Ive' caught DW getting ready to drink acetone (fingernail polish remover) and hand lotion. Thank God I was right there. She will also occasionally try to eat random things like fake flowers, crayons, pieces of paper. I guess thats TMI.
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I caught DW brushing her teeth with a paintbrush and watercolor paint. Poison center said non-toxic. Ever vigilant now. She also used fabreze as a skin care product. I had removed all the usual suspects (poisons, cleaning products, etc), but had not thought of these other products as presenting a risk. She is currently in a loop of polishing her finger nails every other day or so…another thing to hide. Its exhausting.
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I must admit I did not read through everyone’s responses. I’m responding to the original post. Recycling/revisiting problems. You are revisiting problems, but your parent is not. It’s new (in some way) every time. I have spent considerable time in therapy trying to keep myself healthy and still be there for my mom. I’m trying to reframe the way I label things and the way I approach things. I am an educator and problem solver by nature. But my mother doesn’t need a problem solver. She needs me to walk side-by-side on this journey with her, so that she is not alone. She needs me to respect her feelings, her frustrations. To say “oh, that sucks”. To say “oh, that’s too bad that we can’t figure this out”. Or to say “well, let me look into that further and maybe I can come up with some better ideas”. Your situation may be different…but mother seems to respond well to the fact that I recognize things aren’t right for her (things will never be right for her). She seems to take comfort in my commiserating with her and validating her feelings, regardless of how removed from truth and reality her perceptions are. It is still her truth. And the goal (at least for my situation) is not solving the problem. It’s just staying for the journey.
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PS… I apologize. I never heard if the term DW before. This is your wife, not a parent. Some of my comments still apply, but I imagine that since it’s your spouse there are many more complexities there. Sorry for the misunderstanding. And please take care of yourself.
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and now I must apologize further… I DID read all of the posts and your ordeal is heartbreaking. Your wife’s journey and symptoms are obviously at a level where outside intervention is required. Trust yourself and NEVER feel guilty about doing what needs to be done for her. Ask yourself what you would want her to do if the situation was reversed. Good luck and God speed.
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