Where do you start?

HJM26
HJM26 Member Posts: 1 New
Hi everyone, our family has noticed some extreme changes in our mother. Her mother passed from alzheimer’s/dementia. I’m not clear on the differences.
How do we contact her doctor to evaluate them so that we can somehow help to alleviate some of the symptoms or at least make their doctor aware of the situation.
She thinks most people are sneaky and snooping through her things, planning to embarrass her and conspiring behind her back.
She gets sad, depressed and angry. I have found her sitting in the dark and she stares at her calendar for hours trying to make sense of things. She believes someone keeps changing her calendar, but nobody touches it.
She remembers the past like a sharp tack but current dates and events are confusing. I could go on!
I just need some guidance on where to start as I seem to be the one who my family is waiting on to get the ball rolling.
Thank you!!

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  • caregiving daughter
    caregiving daughter Member Posts: 212
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    First, dementia is the umbrella. Alz, Vascular Dementia, and other cognitive impairments are subsets of dementia. Other conditions can play in as well so it's excellent that you wanting to engage her physician.

    A probable diagnosis is typically made by a neuro psychologist; however, your starting point should be her primary. What worked for us is that an appointment was made with the pcp and then a day before, I walked a letter to the office, asking that it be given to the physician, indicating we were concerned about xyz symptoms. We asked that the letter be kept confidential. I believe we walked out of of that appointment with a referral to a specific neuro psychologist along with a script for a specialized driving exam. For driving, they did not pass or fail my mom for her test the first time. It was costly, so thankfully, my mom got angry and refused to give them more money for a second test. Driving stopped.

    My mom made it through the first neuro psych exam taking about two hours. She did not do well and therefore, became very frustrated and skeptical. Fortunately, the test was enough to receive the probable diagnosis of mixed Alz/Vascular and she was put on medication, The written report, that she was given but did not at all understand, outlined what changes in daily living were necessary at this point, e.g., no driving, supervision with financials, supervision on medication. I was able to spring the poa's about this time.

    My mom was also becoming very difficult. The key for me was taking a four hour course, at a local skilled nursing facility, on Alz given by the Alz Association. When I introduced myself, I sobbed. At the close, I left with education, understanding, and brochures on everything from legal, to respite, to physicians, to adult daycare.

    Ask us more questions. The journey is long. Your mother is so fortunate to have you at her side.

  • H1235
    H1235 Member Posts: 2,398
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    edited October 1

    Great advice given above. My experience was very similar. Having legal matters handled is incredibly important. I durable power of attorney is a must. If this has not been done, I would suggest to her that it’s just something that should be done for the future, because she is getting older. Most people with dementia have something calling anosognosia. This is the inability to recognize their symptoms or limitations, often to to point that there is absolutely nothing that can be said to convince them otherwise. It’s tough! Pointing out symptoms usually doesn’t go well as a way to convince her will probably not go well. We have a saying here never try to reason with a person with dementia, you will always lose. To get her the help she needs is usually best to just do what needs to be done without consulting her ( I know, ironically that’s what she is paranoid about). In my experience once a person is far enough along with dementia to be diagnosed, they are probably not safe to drive or live alone. If your thinking assisted living you should know that many have a waiting list to get in. They can also be ridiculously expensive. If your going to see a lawyer you may also want to discuss finances. Will Medicaid be necessary, what does it cover in your state, should her house be sold to cover Al, should money be put into a trust, is a prepaid funeral a good idea? ?? It would probably be good to freeze her credit. There are a few that have had loved ones go out and buy a new car when they really shouldn’t even be driving. Because of the anosognosia there will probably never come a time when she can understand the need for more care. This can get kind of ugly. In my opinion safety unfortunately has to take priority over her independence and what she wants. I found that being in al was so much less stress on mom. Managing a house, meals, medication, laundry, cleaning, finances, yard work…. was just very overwhelming for her. I found anxiety medication was helpful, but it took a while to get it figured out. I wouldn’t get your hopes up for meditation that will actually do anything for the dementia itself. I will attach a bunch of resources I wish I would have had in the beginning. Lean all you can, it will help. I hope something here is helpful.

    https://www.creditkarma.com/credit/i/how-to-freeze-credit

    https://iona.org/therapeutic-fibs-ok/

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/confabulation-dementia

    https://www.helpinghandshomecare.co.uk/care-advice/what-is-show-timing-in-dementia-patients/

  • pamu
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    edited October 2

    Contact her doctor's office direct to get the ball rolling to get you authorized. I was able to do so by downloading a form then we brought it together during one of her doctor visits. Then I had access to the patient portal so I could communicate with her doctors. Do you (or anyone) accompany her with her to her appointments? You will also need POA to make healthcare decisions and handle her banking and legal affairs. I have to be honest, my mother's PCP was of no help managing her dementia symptoms. She went to a neurologist after a fall who just basically confirmed her dementia diagnosis… they think Alzheimers but could be mixed dementia. I asked them about medications and I was told "we don't really do that here" which I thought was really strange. We found that a geriatric psychiatrist was the most helpful managing her symptoms (confusion, delusions and agitation). If your mom is anything like mine (paranoid), you may have to tell her a fiblet to get her to go. My mom thought that getting the initial assessment was required for Medicare. With that said, she was able to draw a clock, count backwards in series of 7's and remember the four words that was given to her at the beginning of the session. After some time "the wheels came off the bus" and her cognitive reserve went down and symptoms appeared (confusion, delusional stories). That first assessment was in 2018. She is now in a nursing home (lock down because she is exit seeking). It has been a very long road and we know it will continue on even longer because she is very healthy otherwise. Mom (88 YO) can still present "well" on good days, but her symptoms are more severe and are being managed with medication. Wishing you well.

  • lilacgirl
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    You have been given great advice already, so I won’t repeat it. I just wanted to say, my mom does the exact same thing with the calendar!! Obsesses about it, looks at it for hours, can’t figure out when things are happening even though it’s written right in front of her. One thing we did to try to help was we got her a new calendar and only wrote people’s birthdays in it— having learned not to tell her in advance about appointments, etc— but still she studies it constantly and obsesses about when to buy and mail birthday cards.

Commonly Used Abbreviations


DH = Dear Husband
DW= Dear Wife, Darling Wife
LO = Loved One
ES = Early Stage
EO = Early Onset
FTD = Frontotemporal Dementia
VD = Vascular Dementia
MC = Memory Care
AL = Assisted Living
POA = Power of Attorney
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