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Guilt Trips

lilacgirl
lilacgirl Member Posts: 92
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I've always been susceptible to my mom's guilt trips, which is something I've been exploring with my therapist. But it's especially hard for me to brush them off now, because I feel responsible for moving her into AL near me, and boy does she like to complain about it! The bed is uncomfortable, the vent in the bathroom is too loud, she doesn't like anything on the menu (that's because seriously the only thing she likes right now is sweets), people knock on her door too often, the garden outside her window needs to be cleaned up, the nurses forget to bring her medicine (they don't — she just forgets taking it), etc ., etc.

I can ignore and even tease her about all of her complaining (I called her "Miss Sunshine" today and she actually laughed), but the guilt tripping really gets to me.

I promised her that if she moved here I would see her every day, unless I was out of town, and I have done that; I only missed 2 days, when I knew other people were visiting her. I don't overdo it, I just stop in for maybe 1/2 hour. I also take her out twice a week, once for errands and once to take her to church. It's never enough. She begs me to stay longer. I'm going away for one overnight trip this week, and she is very upset that I'm leaving her… I also have taken a hiatus from my work since December when my dad died. I'm planning to start working again, and she said to me today, "Just don't get too busy with it, you have to take care of your mother!" She's just so needy with me. I have several trips planned for later in the summer and I'm so stressed about how she's going to react— but lordy, I need a break.

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  • Emily 123
    Emily 123 Member Posts: 987
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    Hi Lilacgirl,

    It's hard to not feel guilty.

    But a disease, not you, caused her to need more oversight in order to stay safe. You were the best person to do what needed to be done. Not easy, but loving.

    She may very well think she hasn't seen you recently because she can't remember the visits, which is something you won't be able to fix. Give yourself a break and don't feel guilty when the disease prevents her from knowing that you're taking good care of her. A move into an AL can be disorienting at first because she'll use a lot of her mental reserves each day to set up her new routines. That might make her feel more anxious too, and hopefully she should settle in over the next weeks. If you think she's stressed or more anxious than usual you can always consult with her provider to see if a low dose anti-anxiety or antidepressant will help—a low dose of Lexapro really helped my mom adjust when I moved her into MC from AL. Like night & day.

    It's always tough, since the disease makes it hard for our person to feel whole and happy. The best you may get is that they're safe and healthy.

    It does seem that right now, as she's adjusting, discussing plans about when you'll be away makes her anxious. Maybe avoiding that or talking around it will help?

    Just you do you, and do visits in a way that feels balanced to you. If you need a break from visiting, take one. It's okay. Take advantage of her being in a care facility by carving out time for yourself and maintaining your own relationships 'outside' the dementia world.

  • H1235
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    If she complains that a half hour visit is too short then would it really it be any worse if you just cut it to 15min. Fewer visits may actually be good for her. She sounds very dependent on you. Fewer visits may encourage her to get out of her room more and join in activities, vs depending on you to keep her company and entertain her. You have a life! You should be able to enjoy it. Her requests seem unreasonable, whether dementia or just a demanding personality. If she becomes extremely agitated and upset without daily visits, then maybe you should talk with her doctor about anxiety medication.

  • caregiving daughter
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    Good chance that quite a bit of the complaining is the illness. You can't explain conflicting priorities as she will likely not follow. Do understand that your mom does need you but it's up to you to establish boundaries. I visited three to four times a week which was especially hard with school age children; however, my mom was one to judge and complain about other people's homes so I decided I would not bring her to our home. Field trips and lunches were in—coming to my home and complaining about the decorating and crumbs on the floor were out.

  • psg712
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    I second what everyone else has said. Protect your mental health, so that you have the fortitude to care for her. Also ... probably better not to tell her when you'll be out of town. That just fuels her anxiety. When my mom was near this stage, I learned not to give her a future date or time when I'd return. She couldn't keep track of it anyway. "I'll see you again soon" was reassuring to her without creating anxiety around the calendar. It also gave me some wiggle room if I had to delay my visit to handle an urgent issue at home or work. My mom was a master at guilt trips when I was growing up, and I'd twist myself into any shape that would gain her approval. As an adult, I've gradually learned that isn't a healthy way to live. Kudos to you for identifying this and addressing it in therapy.

  • lilacgirl
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    edited May 20

    I am in this place again— made the mistake of telling her we were going to the beach for Memorial Day weekend. My brother is going to be here to see my mom for a couple days while we are away, so I figured she’d be fine with that.
    Now she is begging me to take her with us. She says she needs a break from the AL. I get it. But no. I need a break too! She is acting like a child, pouting and just trying to make me feel bad. It’s working.

  • H1235
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    Most people would say mom is able to have a pretty normal conversation. This is deceiving. There are so many topics that will anger her (not screaming mad, just irritated and annoyed). It’s not possible to have the normal relaxed conversation that I would have had with her years ago. I don’t speak without thinking through exactly what I’m going to saying. I constantly consider will this topic upset her or will this lead to a an upsetting topic. If I talk about working in my garden she gets upset because she wants me to take her to her house so she can work in her garden. Even if I tell her my husband and I went out to dinner last night, she gets sad and talks about how her and dad liked that restaurant or comments on the horrible food they serve her (this is my fault, since she believes she doesn’t belong there). It sometimes seems she wants me to be as miserable as she is and gets snippy if I talk of any joy I have in my life. She almost seems to enjoy it when I tell her about a minor injury or accident. I find this uncomfortable and unsettling and avoid these things as well. Conversations are hard and a bit like walking on egg shells.

  • Quilting brings calm
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    @lilacgirl

    About the Memorial weekend trip - I repeat this from my earlier post: When she starts the guilt trip - gotta go mom. Have to stop at the store for milk for home


    The minute she expresses interest ( again) in accompanying you - 1) redirect. You’ve already told her no. 2) if redirect doesn’t work, say ‘ I have to go Mom’ get off the phone, get up and walk out of her room, etc. 3). If she immediately calls back, let it go to voice mail. Do not give her the chance to wear you down because you need this break. The disease is taking her down, you cannot let it destroy your life too.

  • caregiving daughter
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    It was explained to me that our loved ones show their true emotions to those most close to them. To me, this explains the good behavior when with friends or distant relatives. I would recommend limiting the topics you share with your mom. Bring in a small gift, like flowers, and talk about how your grocery store had such a nice assortment. Bring in a couple bakery cookies, not a lot, as it could make her ill. Ask your mom to talk about her favorite cookie recipes. Bring in a small frame and a couple photos and ask for her help to choose what to put in the frame. My thought is for you to direct the conversation such that you can avoid talking about intimate details that could lead to crossing your boundaries.

  • April23
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    edited May 21

    For those struggling with visits, if there’s someone in your life that can accompany you sometimes, try that. My visits with my dad are a hundred times better when my hubby comes with me. My mom and sister have begun teaming up as do my aunt and uncle. We are doing this for slightly different reasons but the result might be the same. Your LO might simply be on better behavior thus making things easier and more pleasant.

    Also I’ve found timing the visit around a meal or activity is helpful and I also never come empty handed. Give the visit structure so you’re not just sitting around trying to make conversation.

  • harshedbuzz
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    @lilacgirl

    I'd advise you to renege of the promise of a daily visit. If she's waiting on you to come and listen to her complain, she won't be as likely to get out into her new community and socialize.

    Like April23, I found dad had just enough social filter left early on to behave better to behave better if I restricted visit to public areas where he'd have an audience. I also never came empty-handed. Dad loved sweets, coffee and fastfood lunches.

    HB

  • Victoriaredux
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    Agree , visiting everyday is too much for three of you. Three? For you - you need to recover from the stress of finding a place and getting her moved- well done !; for her - so she'll get used to her new home and for the staff so they can get to know her better and put in the effort to keep her calm/entertained.

    Also, time distorts in unpredictable ways for a PWD. I went thru many loops once to see a LO , it was exhausting . I called about an hour after I saw them when they got back to their MC [they had been off campus at a medical appointment] and got chewed out for never seeing them! Memory of our visit- poof!

    You got her safe , visit when it fits your schedule. And when you are with her - stay in that time frame- no future plans, no past remembrances . It's right here ,right now.

  • April23
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    ITA with the PP, every day is too much for the reasons stated but I also understand the feeling of needing to visit every day. But that need will lessen with time, if only because you will come to realize it simply isn’t sustainable as your own needs often will need to take precedence which is totally ok. You have a job, family, etc. She is safe and well taken care of. You can’t put her happiness above your own needs because the reality is you will never be able to make her happy. You’ve made her safe, that’s all you can do.

  • sandwichone123
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    Even if you're visiting every day, you don't have to stay a certain amount of time. If she starts in on you, complaining or blaming, fifteen seconds in, that's the time to leave. She really needs to have the space to develop relationships there, not just wait to pounce on you. Reward what you value, so while she's pleasant to be with, give her attention. When she stops being pleasant, leave immediately.

    One of the traps we fall into is to ask, beg, remind them to stop being mean, complaining, undermining, etc. This provides attention, so rewards the behavior. If complaining and blaming are followed by, "I see. I have to go now," turn, walk, she may learn (not remember each episode, but learn). She may not, in which case the benefit is that you limit how much damage she can do to you.

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