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PSue
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Hello. I just found this group. My father has Alzheimer's, and my mother is his primary caregiver. My sister and I live close and are helping as much as we can. Mom is showing the wear-and-tear of the situation. We are looking for a place where we can benefit from the experiences of others who've already gone further down this road. At this time, Dad is still able to do all of his own daily living activities, but his short-term memory loss is significant. The biggest issue of late is that he is telling stories about his past that seem impossible to be true, and my mom does not know what to believe. The subject matter is extremely triggering for her. Thank you for any input you may have.

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  • ARIL
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    Hello, and welcome—although I an sorry your family is going through this. It is a hard journey.

    There’s a lot to say, so I’ll stick to two things:

    The stories. People with dementia very commonly tell stories that are a mishmash of facts from their own past, facts from other people’s stories, and things they recall from books, TV, films, newspapers, etc. My dad went through a period when he reported wartime horrors he had experienced—but from his uncle’s military service, not his own. (I knew the facts from other sources.) And now there’s a lot about people who died long ago. As a response, it is better to accept their reality if that is possible: “That must have been so hard for you,” “I am sorry you had to go through that,” or “No, I haven’t seen Grandma in a while. How’s she doing?” Sometimes he mixes up the two women he was married to—and with whom he lived very different lives. This is understandable but hard for me, since the healthier relationship was with my mom. Sometimes I say “huh” and try to change the subject, and sometimes I just can’t manage to enter the alternate reality, and I say, “Was that (Other Name), maybe?” If he disagrees, I let it go. Arguing is fruitless—and I know it will all be forgotten very quickly…by him, at least. For me, it’s just another pain that this disease brings.

    Your mom. You say, “Mom is showing the wear-and-tear of the situation.” Her health and well-being are serious concerns. It is not uncommon for a caregiver to pass away before the PWD, and even more common for the caregiver to neglect their own health. Make sure mom is going to her own medical appointments and is getting adequate rest and relief from direct caregiving. The 24/7 at-home situation will only grow more difficult over time. It will be helpful to consider a Plan B now. Also, the legal questions—about DPOA for both of them, HIPAA access at doctors’ offices, etc.—are important to consider asap.

    Folks here are compassionate and knowledgeable, and collectively they have seen it all. You’re always welcome here.

  • caregiving daughter
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    Please try to find an Alz support group—live, if at all possible. You, your sis, and your mom could attend. If it's too much for your mom right now, the siblings could go. Alz Association also often gives community education for caregivers. Jump into one of the those—you'll leave armed with legal, respite, physician, and other type of resource numbers. I held it together until I attended one of these. I couldn't even introduce myself as I just started crying when I tried to say my name. I can't tell you how good it felt to be side by side with others that were going through this illness. I felt so much better after and also felt like I better understood the difficult journey ahead.

  • H1235
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    Welcome. I’m glad you found our group. Getting all the legal stuff addressed is very very important. Remember he can no longer be your moms DPOA. Feel free to ask specific questions, vent or browse (you can use the search to look at old posts on a topic of interest, the thread will be old, but the information will still be good). As APRIL said it’s going to be as important to keep an eye on your mom as it is your dad. Caregiving if rough. The confabulations are hard to deal with. I would also caution you and your mom regarding finances. It’s hard to take away access to finances, but there are some here with loved ones that have lost everything. Sometimes a loved one might even try to buy a new car, when they aren’t even available to drive. So far anosognosia has been the worst symptom. This is the inability to recognize their own symptoms and limitations. It can cause your loved one to put themselves in dangerous situations and get very angry if you try to stop them. I will attach a few resources since you are new. They might be of some help.

    https://iona.org/therapeutic-fibs-ok/

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/confabulation-dementia

    https://www.helpinghandshomecare.co.uk/care-advice/what-is-show-timing-in-dementia-patients/

  • PSue
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    This is so helpful. I'm sad for my mom because she just can't believe that he's telling things that aren't real. Since the stories are about a wild, adulterous life for 50 years of their marriage (so very unlike his character, and impossible to have happened without anyone knowing), Mom has had a breakdown, thinking her whole life has been a lie. The vast majority of the time, Dad has no idea what Mom's talking about, has no recollection of having said any of those things, and adamently denies having lived a life like that. We've tried to share any information we can find on confabulation with Mom, though we don't know much. But Mom rejects it all and believes every awful story. It's destroying her. And when she thinks of it, and tells Dad what "he's done," it's not good. My sister and I are praying for direction on how to help both of them!

  • PSue
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    I needed to hear this. I looked online, and I did find a group who meets near us. It sounds like this will be so helpful to us! Thank you!

  • PSue
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    Wow, I can see that we have so much to learn! This is super-helpful! I'm starting to realize what a disadvantage we've been at, having had so little information. Thank you!

  • harshedbuzz
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    @PSue

    Hi and welcome. I am sorry for your reason to be here but pleased you found this place.

    It sounds as if you are describing confabulation aka conflated memories. This is an early feature of the alcohol-related dementia dad (for him it was pre-diagnosis) had, but it can come a little later in the progression of some of the other dementias. The fixation of the past is due, IMO because a PWD is incapable of making new memories or even recalling their own more recent history. This can kind of cause them to time-travel. Dad spent a lot of time in the early 1960s and mid-1970s.

    This is when there is general recall of an event, but the details are missing because of memory issues. This causes the PWD to "fill in" the missing information with something that makes sense in the moment— often they will assume the "hero" or "victim" role in any re-telling. Sometimes the people with them will be inserted into the story because they no longer have the ability to immediately recall who really was there.

    A lot of my dad's conflated memories were just crazy nonsense; he accused me of stealing a Degas painting from him; it was a museum poster that decorated their first apartment in 1959 that was tossed when they furnished their first home a few years later.

    But other memories had a dark side. For a time, he accused me of leaving my kids in a bar to go have sex with some random dude. He did this in front of my then middle school-aged son. Fun times. He did get a call from a bartender to pick up kids— twice, in fact— but it was his sister and mine. Not me. Another theme was me stealing $360K from him. (Always $360K. It took a while to suss out, but it

    was a loss from bad trading before he forgot how to log on to his laptop)

    A number of his stories focused on his own infidelity but twisted to make mom the bad guy— reliving that plus the re-write was hard on her. As the disease progressed, he started to insert himself into TV shows. Specifically, mom's crime dramas and the weather channel. It used to amaze me that he couldn't recall eating lunch but could tell me all about being kidnapped and murdered the night before. Or he'd look out the window and describe palm trees blowing in hurricane-force winds from his sunroom in Pennsylvania.

    This helped mom understand some of this but she still carried a lot of hurt.

    HB

  • H1235
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    A very simple example of confabulation. When we visited my mil at assisted living we brought her pop. She thanked us and we had a nice visit. When we got ready to leave she saw the pop on the counter. Her brain didn’t know where the pop had come from, so it automatically filled that empty slot in her memory with something else. She never actually thought I wonder where the pop came from. Her brain just filled in the blank and she told us she had just gotten back from the store. In this case I think it’s easy to see how she made that connection. Sometimes it’s much tougher and stranger. Some people have described it as being similar to electrical wires getting crossed. All of a sudden there are connections between things that never belonged together.

  • sandwichone123
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    Sometimes the stories come from TV or movies, and some families have found some relief by limiting the shows that are available. No drama. Nature shows and non-violent documentaries. Shows from way back that they may remember, but sometimes you can figure out where the plot is coming from.

  • PSue
    PSue Member Posts: 6
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    Thank you for sharing this. I'm sorry you went through hearing those things when you knew they weren't true. It's so hard. The attachment was extremely helpful!

  • PSue
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    Good point!

Commonly Used Abbreviations


DH = Dear Husband
DW= Dear Wife, Darling Wife
LO = Loved One
ES = Early Stage
EO = Early Onset
FTD = Frontotemporal Dementia
VD = Vascular Dementia
MC = Memory Care
AL = Assisted Living
POA = Power of Attorney
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