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Revealing diagnosis

How and when does one begin the process of revealing the diagnosis?

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  • marionwilhelm
    marionwilhelm Member Posts: 20
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    I guess it depends &you & your family. I told my people immediatelIy. My sister didn't believe it & neither did her husband. They were dismissive of my information. My husband was with me when the physician told me I had MCI. He has been very sportive.

  • didihamrick
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    Thank you for your response. I haven’t told my husband yet. Only my daughter knows.

  • Watson1
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    didi no real need to put off telling people you have ad. it is now part of your life as it is mine. the sooner you embrace your new situation the better. latter when your in public and a smpile task is taking longer you can say give me a minute i have alzheimers and you won't think a thing about it. you will find that your number of friends gets smaller but the real ones will understand. be kind to yourself, learn as much as you can,join with others that are in the same boat.dive into daily life get out note paper. i have alzheimers believe me i get it………

  • didihamrick
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    Thank you. I am actually awaiting final testing for a diagnosis. I have elevated p-tau but negative for amyloid (forgive me, I am a novice at terminology). I will have a lumbar puncture in March for a definitive diagnosis. I guess I've just noticed marked changes in my memory leading me to believe there is something going on.

  • LBC83
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    In the information I received with the results from my Lumbar Puncture, it is first noted that the laboratory used the "ADmark Phospho-tau Total-tau / AB42 test". A simple google search of this term indicates that several testing companies utilize this test (Quest Diagnostics, Athena Diagnostics, Mayo Clinic Laboratories, Allina Health Laboratory, ACL Laboratories, etc).

    The test results provide four parameters: Amyloid-Beta 42 (AB42), Total-Tau (T-tau), Phosphorylated-Tau (P-tau, this is apparently a very bad kind of tau), and ATI (Amyloid-Total Tau Index)

    Per the lab report I received, If P-Tau is less than 54 pg/mL and ATI > 1.2, then the results are not consistent with Alzheimer's (i.e. something else would be causing any memory problems, not Alzheimer's).

    You are borderline with Alzheimer's if P-Tau is from 54-68 pg/mL and/or ATI 0.8 - 1.2.

    The test confirms Alzheimer's if P-Tau > 68 pg/Ml and ATI < 0.8

  • jahenrymc51
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    I broke my arm in April 2024. Never thought about cognitive problems causing a fall but in some way I can understand. I’ve seen a neurologist for migraines recommended by my doctor. After my last office visit my neurologist got me in for pychiatric testing which came back with a dementia diagnosis. I’ve noticed trouble finding words and other early signs. Now I know after doing research at pages in this website that falls can be associated with dementia.

    It is scary because my father died at age 81. No one was told if he was diagnosed with Alzheimer. My husband has been with me the whole way plus one friends. I have so many emotional swings but telling my best friend was helpful. I feared what others would say.
  • David1946
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    My VA appointment was canceled do to the VA had no one to take me for my first appointment let's what happens next week/ I will keep my fingers crossed.

  • didihamrick
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    That is very helpful information. my p-tau was .18 with the amyloid negative. What does that sound like?

  • dlubritz
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    Hi DIDI, I have just rejoined this group and I was reading several responses. Please, DIDI, do not listen to anyone making medical suggestions!! Your doctor will tell you when you see him your diagnosis!!

    I am a former RN BSN. One must be careful on these site when members overstep even though their intentions are good.

    Take care

  • didihamrick
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    Oh, thank you for your response. I am so confused and frightened right now. The uncertainty of a diagnosis gives me both hope, yet fear. I appreciate your kind encouragement.

  • jojorurus64
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    Please tell him.

    I told all my family as soon as I decided what I was going to do as far as infusions etc and My husband and myself became educated on Alzheimers.

    It is best to let the family go through th process with you. (of course my opinion)

  • LBC83
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    I would echo what dlubritz posted. I'm not a Doctor, you should ask them for their interpretation. To add a bit more to dlubritz's comment, different labs utilize different tests for determining AD. I shared my lab report, just to show that my report included information to help interpret the results (i.e. if number A is above such-and-so while number B is below this-and-that, then you probably do or don't have AD). Thus, for me, it was anti-climactic going to the Dr to get his take on the results as I was aware of the meaning of the test results as soon as I received the results.

    But as dlubritz hints at, since numbers of certain parameters (like p-tau) are measured differently in various tests, non-experts like us can't just make general conclusions about AD from any particular test.

  • eaglemom
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    I so appreciate seeing everyone helping and encouraging each other. This is not a journey to take alone, you need support of your family and friends. Then you'll need the support you find in support groups. DH & I began this journey 13 yrs ago, and I never dreamed of attending, much less leading eventually, a support group. It is where you are with people who totally understand what you are going through. Your family/friends understand on some levels, but they aren't walking the walk constantly.

    It is very personal how & when you tell people your diagnosis. We told are DS & DIL immediately - they were aware that 'something' was going on. We gave ourselves several days of us - just us - to wrap our heads around what this meant. DH was 53, this wasn't something we'd expected. Then we told our closest couple friends - there were tears and prayers. Then we did the very unexpected - invited our very closest groups of friends to our house. They knew something was up, but again didn't know any details. After a bit, DH said he needed to talk and he shared what the neurologist had shared with us. He shared the upcoming tests, etc. And the hardest part was sharing he was put on immediate disability. His voice cracks, he had tears, I had tears, everyone had tears. But the beautiful thing that happened was the men immediately went to DH to hug him, & the women to me. And that's how it still is 13 yrs later - this group is close. That's our story, not everyone wants to be that open, but at DH's age we knew this was how we'd handle it.

    eagle

  • didihamrick
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    that’s beautiful - thank you for sharing

  • didihamrick
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    thank you for this information. I feel like I don’t have enough info from my doctor to interpret a diagnosis. I am going to request a phone consult with the doctor to help me know what I’m facing.

  • didihamrick
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    I had a phone consult with my doctor’s nurse asking if the elevated p-tau test result (negative amyloid) could be a false negative or if this was actually indicative of AZ. I am scheduled for a lumbar puncture in March I suppose for further diagnostic testing. The nurse was so kind but the bottom line she said is that the elevated p-tau in itself is a diagnosis for AZ. Obviously, I’m devastated. I plan to tell my husband later this week.

  • eaglemom
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    You are doing the correct things didihamrick - asking questions and seeking answers. I can't imagine how difficult it was for you to have that discussion with the nurse, but bravo for you, you did it. That was brave of you. Of course you are devastated, this is the journey no one wants to go on. However, a strong support system makes a world of difference. Personally I'm glad your going to tell your husband. Just take a deep breath and say this is what I'm dealing with. He might ask questions you can't answer, that's fine or he might just get very quiet for awhile. You've had time to adjust to thinking about the possibility of a diagnosis, you are going to be telling him something out of the blue.

    We want to help you as much as we can. That's why we are here. I think your being very brave.

    eagle

  • didihamrick
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    Oh thank you so much. I had my first mini-meltdown today when I told my therapist. It's the first time I've spoken it out loud. I felt like I'd been kicked in the chest by my own voice.

    Good advice on allowing my husband to have time to process this news too. I guess I do have great hope that he will be supportive but equally as frightened that he will shut down emotionally at a time when I need him most. [Dear God, I can't believe I'm talking like this to strangers online!]

    Anyway, today I have felt like a HOT MESS. Your kind words and encouragement helps.

  • eaglemom
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    I'm just checking on you didihamrick. Feeling like a hot mess is part of this journey. I think its very healthy that you could and do realize your a hot mess. Your not denying it, that's the good part. We are all a hot mess sometimes, it happens. Don't beat yourself up over it.

    Take lots of deep cleansing breaths to calm yourself. We're here for you.

    eagle

  • didihamrick
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    I finally told my husband this weekend. My daughter (who was aware already) was with me. Her medical background was helpful in explaining to my husband. He was shocked, concerned, and supportive.
    Unfortunately, I had a melt-down yesterday. I guess I was “too needy” and my daughter became pretty angry with me. I only have my daughter and husband who know and I’m hesitant to share with anyone else because I just don’t know how. I’m so scared. I want to hide in my house. I honestly need a to find a therapist who has some experience with the disease. However, I live in a tiny town in NE Mississippi.

    More than you could know, I appreciate your concern.

  • LBC83
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    I just started reading "A Tatoo on My Brain" by Daniel Gibbs. He was a neurologist, diagnosed with AD. Perhaps some of his words may be of comfort to you, I found them helpful:

    Gibbs writes that "AD at any stage is a tough disease, in part because, at any age or stage, just knowing that you're living with it is enough to upend assumptions you may have had about the future. It calls for conversations that may be tough, too, whether that conversation is with your doctor, family, friends, or others. Among my patients and others I've known who've received a difficult diagnosis, some choose to bare their innermost feelings, others don't. Everyone has their own coping style, I respect them all. … It is tempting to give up and say, 'There is nothing I can do, there is no hope, why bother?' I fight against my apathy all the time, and I know the fight is worth it. I feel so much better when I can take action and feel that I am in charge, not AD. But for those of us with the disease, even its earliest stages, it's daunting to get your head around the idea of taking charge against a disease that is slowly destroying your brain."

    Hang in there. Your postings indicate you are an intelligent and compassionate person. I know firsthand that life with AD is tough, but I believe that you can get through this.

  • didihamrick
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    Oh thank you for this. I feel so utterly alone right now. My daughter and husband (in my mind) think I’m “over-reacting” since the information I am going on is “merely an elevated p-tau” and I should “just chill” until after the lumbar puncture. Yet from all the information I’ve been able to gather indicates that p-tau in and of itself indicates ALZ. My lumbar puncture is five weeks away. The waiting is agony. I need someone to talk to but I fear a similar reaction from anyone I tell. I’ve known for some time that my mind is not firing on all cylinders and I suppose this explains it. I feel so alone in this. Thank you for your concern and for sharing the book with me.

  • LBC83
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    I sympathize with your dilemma. For me, the difficult period was after a preliminary AD diagnosis from cognitive testing in Feb 2024. I had my Lumbar puncture in March 2024, then had to wait for a confirmation from the results from the lumbar puncture in late April 2024. This wasn't the most pleasant period of my life :).

    It is dangerous to trust info that people post on the web, but with that warning, I noticed a paper available on the National Institute of Health website titled "Is tau in the absence of amyloid on the Alzheimer's continuum? A study of discordant PET positivity". The paper was published in 2019, documenting a study performed among 523 people from the Alzheimer's Disease Neuroimaging Initative who received PET scans. Of these 523 participants, a subset of 301 without dementia also had a previous PET scan from 12 months previous. From the PET scans, the researchers could determine the amount of amyloid beta and tau in the participants brains. They organized the results into four groups: Amyloid negative / Tau negative, Amyloid Positive / Tau negative, Amyloid Negative / Tau Positive, and Amyloid Positive / Tau Positive.

    The largest group was Tau positivity in the absence of amyloid positivity, the smallest group was amyloid positive tau negative.

    The amyloid negative / tau positive group showed small-to-moderate relative decreases in cognition, while the amyloid positive / tau positive group had the worst cognitive performance.

    Here is a link to the paper

  • didihamrick
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    Thank you SO much! I will check this out. I have been watching seminars conducted by Teepa Snow and while very informative they are geared more toward caregivers. I am also watching videos on BrightFocus.org regarding Alzheimer’s Disease Research and they are informative. And thanks for the reminder to be careful where I get information. I am careful to check where I am looking for info and quick to log off. I feel as if I'm wandering around with every nerve fiber on high alert yet my body is moving in agonizingly slow motion.

  • eaglemom
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    I am so proud that you told your husband about everything. Absolutely all of your feeling are normal. Of course your anxious about everything - your world has just been turned upside down.

    As for your husband and daughter thinking you need to chill, sadly that's a normal reaction for those not having the disease. They can't possibly understand what you are going though. They can understand only up to a certain point. Telling you to "just chill" is like telling the wind to stop blowing - it just doesn't work. And frankly its dismissing your feelings. Your feelings are 100% spot on. But that is their way of dealing with their acceptance of your diagnosis. They need time to accept it also.

    You've received wise advice on being very careful on what you are reading. We are here to help you through this. And your husband and daughter if they choose to come to the message board. Deep cleansing breaths throughout the day, we're here to help.

    eagle

  • didihamrick
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    Thank you, my dear. It is good to hear that what I am feeling is normal but I feel any way but normal! I am walking around in a wounded fog and it feels as if surely someone will notice the fear and grief that must be oozing from every pore. Yet, no one seems to notice. I suppose it's akin to losing someone in death but this death is the loss of the essence of who you are. Obviously, having told only my daughter, husband and best friend doesn't lend itself to have multiple people to turn to, so I turn to this online forum of faceless people with whom I share my fears and sorrows.

    I'm just marking time until my lumbar puncture in early March to get a more definitive idea of where I stand. I'm desperately trying to find a counselor in my area to begin seeing yet living in a tiny town in Mississippi does not lend itself to a myriad of options.

    Again, I thank you for your words of encouragement and concern. I am ever so grateful.

  • LBC83
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    I've been reading the book "A Tatoo on my Brain" by Daniel Gibbs. The subtitle is "A Neurologist's Personal Battle against Alzheimer's Disease". You might find the book helpful. I will quote a short section from the book:
    "Alzheimer's at any stage is a tough disease, in part because, at any age or stage, just knowing that you're living with it is enough to upend assumptions you may have made about the future. It calls for conversations that may be tough, too, whether that conversation is with your doctor, family, friends, or others. Among my patients and others I've known who've receive a difficult diagnosis, some choose to bare their innermost feelings, others don't. Everyone has their own coping style. I respect them all. As for me, as odd as it might seem, I'm fascinated by this disease that, for my entire career as a scientist and a neurologist, I could only observe from the outside. Now I've got a front-row seat - or, rather, I'm in the ring with the tiger. Of course I'm disappointed that I have Alzheimer's. But I'm stuck with it. And the habits of a lifetime - to approach a question with a certain kind of detachment and to study, experiment, hypothesize and discover - turn out to be my coping mechanisms. I'm grateful for that now. I hope that this book, informed by that perspective on the science, medicine and everyday life experience of early-stage Alzheimer's, will be of help to others."

  • didihamrick
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    thanks so much. I just downloaded the book.

  • didihamrick
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    I downloaded the book and am reading now. Fascinating. Thanks for the suggestion.

  • LBC83
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    I'm glad you are finding it helpful. His experience with ARIA in chapter 13 due to a monoclonal antibody was scary. I am also on a monoclonal antibody (Leqembi). I understand the risks, but I thought the reward (reduced cognitive decline) was worth the slight possibility of ARIA.

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